Didnt put any fluid in Torque converter!

[mk3-4-me]

So i just got my car to start up after the rebuild. It doesnt shift into any gear though. My buddy said that its probably because i didnt put anything in the torque converter.

So my question is have any of you done this? Will it fill up if i let it idle a bit? Cause i mean it doesnt shift into anyting at all.

I just dont wanna have to pull my motor back out for that, and thats what my buddy said i gotta do.

 

[IJ.]

How much Oil is in the trans?

 

[mk3-4-me]

well i had originally put like 6 quarts in right away cause thats what someone told me to do. I think its way to much for all at one time. I took about 2 - 3 quarts out already, and its still above both the HOT and COLD check marks. what do you guys think?

 

[IJ.]

You need to idle it and run it through the gears on the shifter to help bleed Air out, on a fresh Trans install they take around 8Qt's.

 

[mkiiichip]

Can you get the car in neutral? Can you engage park?
The torque converter will fill up if you keep the level correct.

 

[mk3-4-me]

no it doesnt shift into anything. The shifter moves back and forth but it just doesnt engage. The linkage is connected. I think its just to much fluid, hopefully!!

its in park now.

 

[alpertbrown]

i had the same issue, i just kept dumping transmission fluid into the car then eventually it shifted very weakly into gears. i got the car to a nice level place and found out i still needed to add more fluid.

 

[IJ.]

no it doesnt shift into anything. The shifter moves back and forth but it just doesnt engage. The linkage is connected. I think its just to much fluid, hopefully!!its in park now.

You're not making sense.... if you didn't fill the Converter how can it be overfull (and why would that cause it to slip?)

Slip is usually not enough Oil, you could have pumped 2 Qt's into the Converter then the pan will be 2 Qt's low, as I said you need to bleed all of the Air out of all of the internal circuits then check the fluid level when hot on flat ground, if it's overfull all that happens is it will puke out of the Top vent when revved hard..

 

[stevenr816]

Fill it, stick it in reverse, fill it run it through D, 2, L fill it and repeat as necessary. It's LOW period not over filled. I think the 8qt dry fill is with torque converter so your still 2 qts away.

Without the fluid pressure and accumulators/torque convert filled up nothing will happen.

 

[mk3-4-me]

im saying the tranny its self is to full. The oil comes up way past both fill marks on dipstick.

 

[Poodles]

...and we're telling you that's fine until it's pumped it's way into the torque converter since it obviously hasn't or it would actually move under it's own power.

 

[gottadiesel]

well i had originally put like 6 quarts in right away cause thats what someone told me to do. I think its way to much for all at one time. I took about 2 - 3 quarts out already, and its still above both the HOT and COLD check marks. what do you guys think?

If IJ says it should take 8 qts, stop looking at the dip stick. It says it is too full, because it is sitting in the pan, instead of all the other places it belongs... but unless it is full enough to get into those other places you will get no where... I am no automatic expert nor is mine an auto, but I believe the message everyone is trying to say is - You do not have enough fluid in the tranny - again ignore the dipstick until you have followed the sequence laid out in the other posts on this thread.

Another example... you fill your motor with engine oil... mine now takes about 8 qts to fill it, if I just put 8 qts in it, my dipstick says I am WAY TOO full, but by the time it fills all of the lines, the cooler and the filter... then it is says I am perfect... before anyone esle says anything, I really dont put all 8 in... I put in 6 until oil pressure comes up, then I shut off and fill ;-) but hopefully the analogy will help...

EDIT - Poodles beat me to it and said in less words lol

 

[mk3-4-me]

I know it takes about 8 quarts for a full refill. i was just asking if tghe torque converter will fill its self. Your supposed to fill up a tranny with a couple quarts at a time, other wise theres to much in the one in the oil pan at once. IDK So thats why i was saying theres to much, not it cant hold that much.

But thank everyone!

 

[rayall01]

Will you just run the engine, and shift through the gears for cryin out loud. It takes time for the fluid to get where it's going, and if you let it happen, it will happen. BTW put your foot on the brake while you're doing this, or the car WILL move when the torque converter fills.

 

[hvyman]

It will puke out the fill tube if it has way to much. When are you checking the stick? right after you put fluid in? IF thats the case then you have to wait to check it so the fluid can go all the way down the tube.

 

[mk3-4-me]

Well ive been shifting the shifter back and forth while its running and nothin. Hopefully it just takes a long time... ?

and i checked it after days of sitting. LOL i know how to check a dipstick. its just that there fluid in the fill tube still.

 

[mkiiichip]

If you cant get it out of park, its a linkage issue. There is mechanical linkage to disengage the parking gear. Has nothing to do with fluid.
Did you open the transmission? Why was the torque converter replaced?

 

[supra90mkiii]

Just to be clear... Are you checking the fluid level when the car is running?

 

[mk3-4-me]

no im not checking it when its running.

I put the stoke TC back on. No i didnt open the tranny up.

The actually shifter lever that the linkage connects to on the tranny moves back and forth fine. Is there a mecanical linkage to disengage park inside it?

 

[mkiiichip]

no im not checking it when its running.

Read this:
http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/manual.aspx?S=AT&P=18

Is there a mecanical linkage to disengage park inside it?

Yes.