i may have to give it a try then.. as long as its ok on the motor? only thing i can see is that the e85 would just help up the octane
can i drive my mk3 whit ethanol?
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4U2QUIK
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have fun injecting all the rubber from your fuel system through your injectors and into your ingine. That's just what I want to do.........
in order to run alchohol/ethanol you have to replace all of the rubber in your fuel system with viton or teflon. Just for starters.
in order to run alchohol/ethanol you have to replace all of the rubber in your fuel system with viton or teflon. Just for starters.
grimreaper;1119831 said:
Just remember that your A/F ratio must change along with the amount of gas and ethanol you have in your tank...IMO dont fuck around, if you want to use ethanol get it tuned on ethanol and be done with it. I would recommend just using higher octane gasoline personally (I only go to shell stations with v-power which is 100% gas). Giving people the idea that they can just mix and match is going to end up with some people blowing their engine by going far to lean. Stoich with ethanol is around 9:1, so a turbo car should probably be around 8:1...pretty far away from 10.5-11.5:1 that your car probably runs in boost...
4U2QUIK;1120115 said:
I also second this post. Working on a racecar that runs ethanol has shown me that ethanol loves to eat at a lot of stuff in a fuel system. i would recommend going through the system to make it ethanol safe before going the E85 route.
supradjza80;1120187 said:
This is wrong. EPA regulations changed the normal octane booster for ethanol in all gasolines.
Miss the sign that says "contains up to 10% ethanol?"
One of the main reasons I'm against people removing their charcoal canisters as the ethanol is the first part to evaporate, leaving you with lower octane and inviting detonation.
im going to drive my car on only 95oct in the future can,t afford fixing it.. but i know that some old cars don,t need to be fixed to drive on ethanol my brother drives a old Volvo 240 that has been drived whit e85 over a year now and another friend who drive a sabaru also drives whit pure e85 but i gues i fix my fuel system for it first if im going to try 
group a supra
SPAWNING AN INTERCEPTOR
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seeing as I was one of the first running E85 (back in 2005).
Has anyone actually had a gallon of E85 or E99 and submerged rubber, viton, AQP, mild steel, aluminum, stainless steel etc in it for an extended period of time? Anyone? Buller?
Rate of decomposition?
Rate of absorbtion?
(ps I know the anser so you best carry a "big gun" when you answer the question I posted).
seeing as I was one of the first running E85 (back in 2005).
Has anyone actually had a gallon of E85 or E99 and submerged rubber, viton, AQP, mild steel, aluminum, stainless steel etc in it for an extended period of time? Anyone? Buller?
Rate of decomposition?
Rate of absorbtion?
(ps I know the anser so you best carry a "big gun" when you answer the question I posted).
Poodles;1120253 said:
Uhh, not wrong, I will take a picture of it for you (reg/mid say may contain 10% ethanol, V-pow says 100% pure gasoline)...guess Wisconsin didn't get the memo...
unfortunately to the dismay of most of you it does eat through rubber and other components in a fuel system...at least it does on this car www.uwracing.com...
but i could really care less if you all want to run ethanol in your car, you don't really know what kind of rubber is used to seal injectors and other parts of the system so you might as well try it and see what happens, if it ruins things I guess you will learn your lesson...
but i could really care less if you all want to run ethanol in your car, you don't really know what kind of rubber is used to seal injectors and other parts of the system so you might as well try it and see what happens, if it ruins things I guess you will learn your lesson...
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RC said NOT to use it in their injectors unless you're able to flush the fuel system after each run.
Well that about states it all right now. Jsut to let you know PURE E100 is harder to spark on start up. At the college I am at right now we have a 1992 Mustang that runs on E100 or 100% Ethanol. The fuel pump the lines the injectors and much more had to be changed. If you do this the engine does not need to be messed with. I will tell you though, E100 Burns faster... then Gasoline so if you have a 20 gallons tank your only getting about 10 gallons. The way we start the car up after it sits over night is starting fluid, we've run a 12.1 so far with it, and all the car has is a V8 no force induction.jmanbball;1119689 said:
Ethanol east through rubber and other metals, you have to have special fuel lines tanks, and fuel components. Right now all gasoline has 15% Ethanol in it, and you get worse gas millage with ethanol anyhow, it burns faster, so the people that buy E85 may pay a little less but the public doesn't know it burns faster lower fuel economy. I am currently in Alternative Fuel classes right now , and the way E85 operates in basically useless, it does cut down on oil use but it uses your tank of gas a lot faster so does it really save anything?
Not to mention that as much OIL is used to produce ethanol as the ethanol produced. It's pointless and a waste...
Poodles;1121038 said:
Ding ding ding, there is a study floating around (sorry no references, but IIRC, it's a prestigious university that did it) that states that the overall ethanol process might actually be using more energy than it creates; a net loss of energy.
Also, Ethanol has less BTU's than gasoline, so even though it has a higher octane, you have to inject more of it to get the same power/mileage/results.
Also, to the post earlier about Shell stations' purity of gasoline, I don't know about the v-power thing, but a local Shell station here in Oklahoma advertises 100% pure gasoline.
4U2QUIK
1UZFE SWAP DUDE!!!
But did you test under pressure and heat, and without pressure? I betcha that can change a lot.figgie;1120397 said:
Well I hate to say it since I work on a race car that is primarily funded from a major ethanol producer but other then the increase in octane (good for turbo cars - cheap "race" fuel if you don't count any of the mods it takes to run it and the increase in fuel used) the stuff is junk. It was basically a government kick back to the farmers...Bad process (uses lots of oil to produce, wastes food supplies, and the consumer gets 66% the efficiency with E85 compared to pure gasoline). All in all I would say screw it and get myself a barrel of 105-110 Race gas instead of dealing with ethanol hassle. If I was trying to push high boost through my car that is!
I again want to warn anybody that reads this thread and thinks they can just run E85 in their supra without a problem aka without the proper tuning and modifications...You will go straight to detonation land under boost, that is if the car even starts with the stuff.
I again want to warn anybody that reads this thread and thinks they can just run E85 in their supra without a problem aka without the proper tuning and modifications...You will go straight to detonation land under boost, that is if the car even starts with the stuff.