Alternatively fueled supras

[figgie]

Ok I know IJ has his supra running on LPG.

I am running e-85

is there anyone else that is running anything other than gasoline on thier supras or is IJ and myself crazy enough to do this??

 

[NDBoost]

sounds like an interesting concept. whats your average mpg rating in city/highway

 

[mkiii222]

In addition to mpg, what steps are needed to convert from gas to e-85?
And will it work(ie, no ping/detonation) in a modified turbo motor?

 

[Joel W.]

ya what did you have to do to switch? E-85 is not available here in the west. too bad, its 105 octane!?!?!...and lpg is about the same price as gas or more here..but I do like the idea of how lpg burns clean without carbon buildup and the mega octane it has....

i want a MR FUSION

 

[figgie]

sounds like an interesting concept. whats your average mpg rating in city/highway

with 5% of gasoline MPG

 

[NDBoost]

oo someone needs to divulge how the conversion was done

 

[figgie]

In addition to mpg, what steps are needed to convert from gas to e-85?
And will it work(ie, no ping/detonation) in a modified turbo motor?

mpg see above

To convert

well this is tricky. I am on standalone so it is easy for me to switch from Alkie to Gasoline.

but the basic premise is that with e-85, the car needs about 25% more fuel. Stock the car is 440 injectors meaning the next higher up of 550 will do. Do this without the lex AFM and you have perfect stioch for e-85 Of course run gas and you will run rich.

As for the conversion this is where it gets painfull.

Any aluminum or zinc plating, GONE. Fuel rail needs to be anodized at the very least to survive. The head is a non-issue as the fuel does not stay in the head. Fuel lines replaced with alcohol comptabile lines. For stock power level an SX fuel pump will work. They are stainless internal so they are alcohol compatible. Walbro is NOT and Niether is the AEROMOTIVE FUEL PUMPS!. Fuel pump has to live outside unless the fuel pump is sealed and made for e-85 (see ford or GM for pumps). Reason is that in the gas tank the gasoline makes way to rich a mixture to ignite. Things change with alcohol as it is near a perfect mixture to ignite.

As for pinging. At 105 octane unless you screwed timing up badly nope.

 

[NDBoost]

and how do you obtain the E-85 fuel?

 

[supradan22]

ya what did you have to do to switch? E-85 is not available here in the west. too bad, its 105 octane!?!?!...and lpg is about the same price as gas or more here..but I do like the idea of how lpg burns clean without carbon buildup and the mega octane it has....

i want a MR FUSION

LOL isnt that the thing from back to the future ?

 

[Joel W.]

^^^ya but someday, i just saw a show on hydrogen fusion in a lab. very successful test..It looks promising.., they are getting it figured out...

 

[supradan22]

that would be nice a hydrogen fusion 7m who would have thought.

 

[Joel W.]

ya it may be a while for a 7m-h, but its amazing for me to think how far we progressed in the last 100 yrs, the next 10-50 yrs should be interesting for sure.. sry for hijackin figgie

 

[figgie]

and how do you obtain the E-85 fuel?

Well here in Minnesota they are in just about every single gas station. Cost is about 1.70-1.90 gallon

adn to add most of the UPPER midwest has E-85.

I know Illinois does not have it everywhere but it is catching on even over there

 

[NDBoost]

very interesting figgie, I have yet to see any gas stations in the maricopa county area here in AZ offer E-85

 

[figgie]

very interesting figgie, I have yet to see any gas stations in the maricopa county area here in AZ offer E-85

I don't knwo where that is at but here are at least three stations that say they carry e-85

http://www.e85fuel.com/database/locations.php?state=AZArizona

all located to Tucson, AZ

 

[IJ.]

Mileage on my LPG setup on the highway at a steady 100 kph/60 mph on cruise control is 8.5 litres per 100 KM's 33 imperial MPG and 28 US MPG.

Where it comes into it's own is it's 104 octane and 1/3rd the price of regular Gas here!

It's also a very clean running fuel.

 

[MDCmotorsports]

Im thinking of converting to ethanol... but thats a couple years in the works.

 

[figgie]

IJ

28 MPG?!?!?

How much total distance do you get on a tank full?

 

[IJ.]

1058 km/658 miles on my 90 litre/ 24 US Gallon tank

 

[figgie]

IJ

LMAO!!

wow that is outstanding distance per tank full!