A/C upgrades (R134) - Operation Chill
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figgie;1294400 said:
grimreaper;1295226 said:
Im not sure where you guys are at in this conversation but I just had my OEM system charged up with R134 and it blows nice and cold. We first pulled a vacuum (fixed one leaking oring) then put a can of R134 oil converter stuff in then put in around 1.32-1.35 lbs of R134. Proof is in the pic
When I put the probe in it was at 42 degrees, by the time I turned on the camera and turned on micro, the compressor was already kicking in and out and went up to 45, still nice and cold.I guess that is 2 of us now grim, maybe it is the air in Minnesota and we can just do it correct :biglaugh:
I can speak for at least 2 conversions which did not perform well for me (those were professionally done at shops... national chain).
I am glad thet there are a few of you who've had success on the 1st try, but I still do not think it's the result that many can expect.
Also, even when servicing the A/C system and NOT converting, you need to be sure that your condensor is perfect. I've heard of the build up of junk that gets trapped in most condensors, etc.
This upgrade does seem to have worked for me and even this AM, the interior temp was at 74F degrees and dropped to 45F almost immediately. After about 5 minutes of driving, it was at 38.5F.... It balanced out and remained at 41ish, until I got to work. I am sure the outside temp was probably below 80F.
Much better than any of the previous conversions in my other MKIIIs
I am glad thet there are a few of you who've had success on the 1st try, but I still do not think it's the result that many can expect.
Also, even when servicing the A/C system and NOT converting, you need to be sure that your condensor is perfect. I've heard of the build up of junk that gets trapped in most condensors, etc.
This upgrade does seem to have worked for me and even this AM, the interior temp was at 74F degrees and dropped to 45F almost immediately. After about 5 minutes of driving, it was at 38.5F.... It balanced out and remained at 41ish, until I got to work. I am sure the outside temp was probably below 80F.
Much better than any of the previous conversions in my other MKIIIs
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PURCHASING INFO!
Please be sure to ask for your specific year, etc, since their response below is for my '91.
The company is American Condensor. I believe they are in Cali, so if you read this early enough, some of you may be able to have them start making yours as early as Monday.
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Here's the info for you to order directly:
Person I've worked with for mine is -
Adriana Miera adriana.miera@americancondenser.com
She said that she'd be okay with individual purchases. Did not say if they would be at what I paid, or less.
I have not made any group buy arrangements, I paid $155 plus shipping for mine, dunno what they will quote you. When you contact Adriana you can tell her Elvis sent you. Maybe if they see enough interest, they'll honor the group buy price ($125), or some other discount.
This what they got me:
Part number P39293P (it fits all the 91 Toyota supra models including the turbo).
Condensor: Parallel flow it... will just take us a few days to manufacture. If you have any questions feel free to call (310) 327-8600.
Fine print:
If it doesn't work for you, it's not my fault. I am merely passing on my findings. If you're not happy with the install or results, please don't blame me for it. Everyone has different expectancies and this modification has met mine, but may not meet yours.
Please be sure to ask for your specific year, etc, since their response below is for my '91.
The company is American Condensor. I believe they are in Cali, so if you read this early enough, some of you may be able to have them start making yours as early as Monday.
_______________________________________
Here's the info for you to order directly:
Person I've worked with for mine is -
Adriana Miera adriana.miera@americancondenser.com
She said that she'd be okay with individual purchases. Did not say if they would be at what I paid, or less.
I have not made any group buy arrangements, I paid $155 plus shipping for mine, dunno what they will quote you. When you contact Adriana you can tell her Elvis sent you. Maybe if they see enough interest, they'll honor the group buy price ($125), or some other discount.
This what they got me:
Part number P39293P (it fits all the 91 Toyota supra models including the turbo).
Condensor: Parallel flow it... will just take us a few days to manufacture. If you have any questions feel free to call (310) 327-8600.
Fine print:
If it doesn't work for you, it's not my fault. I am merely passing on my findings. If you're not happy with the install or results, please don't blame me for it. Everyone has different expectancies and this modification has met mine, but may not meet yours.
gtsfirefighter
SM Expert on White trash
I had all the o rings and gaskets replaced right before Houston and flushed, refilled with r134. The system was already converted when I bought it but my dumbass opened the system when I pulled the engine. Anyway, I'm pretty pleased with it. I have yet to put a thermometer to it but it's been keeping me comfortable. I do notice at idle and stop and go traffic there is quite a difference in temp from cruising but nothing to make me break a sweat yet. Usually though, I don't run the a/c in stop and go situations.
A ton of good info here. If my system dies I'll go this route. Maybe this thread should be stickied?
A ton of good info here. If my system dies I'll go this route. Maybe this thread should be stickied?
Satan;1314132 said:
ill be down for one. im sure you can find enough people if you had the time
i would help set it up, but i dont have the money to throw down
92nsx;1314786 said:Im not sure where you guys are at in this conversation but I just had my OEM system charged up with R134 and it blows nice and cold. We first pulled a vacuum (fixed one leaking oring) then put a can of R134 oil converter stuff in then put in around 1.32-1.35 lbs of R134. Proof is in the pic
I guess that is 2 of us now grim, maybe it is the air in Minnesota and we can just do it correct :biglaugh:
bring it down here where it actually gets hot with some humidity and well see how it does in 20 minutes of rush hour traffic
Ambinet was only around 75 degrees, idleing with the a/c set to 65 without recirculation on.CyFi6;1314841 said:
Edit: after reading some of the threads, The vacuum was pulled down to 26-27 in/hg if that make any differance
grimreaper;1315412 said:bring it down here where it actually gets hot with some humidity and well see how it does in 20 minutes of rush hour traffic
Sounds good, you provide the beer
. BTW It gets plenty warm and humid up here too.Once It get warmer out I can stick the thermostat back in and get some more pics for you guys.
I am still fully confident that it will work just fine and cool me this summer. Even in my last 89 that I ran R134 in, it also cooled me off without any problems, but we will see how it performs.
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was driving around last night when it was around 81-82 degrees out, r134a was blowin a nice 45-47, though earlier that day around 103-105 degrees outside with all the heat coming off the street etc i was getting around 60 degree vent temp..
grimreaper;1315412 said:bring it down here where it actually gets hot with some humidity and well see how it does in 20 minutes of rush hour traffic
Its not horrible. My car is fine, probably blows ~ 50 after it cools (a few minutes of driving). Its still very comfortable with the sun beaming on you (no tint) here in FL, even sitting in traffic.
What oil do I use Pag 46 or ester oil for a new compressor? Iv heard 1 or the other from different people.
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Sorry to bring this back from the dead but I'm in the process of redoing the a/c on my 2jz MKIII and ran across this thread. Partstrain.com now sells this parallel flow condensor for $121, comes out to $131 with shipping if you use discount code "HOTSUMMER":
http://www.partstrain.com/store/det.../Turbo/6_Cyl_3-dot-0L/P39293P.html?vdesc=true
http://www.partstrain.com/store/det.../Turbo/6_Cyl_3-dot-0L/P39293P.html?vdesc=true