7M Block is better than 2JZ Block

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p5150

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Doward said:
p5150 - you've already established that you've no interest in hearing the other side of a debate. Your feeble attempts to belittle anyone else's experience or knowledge shows quite clearly that I'd never touch your car - simply because you're showing yourself to be as nut-swinging and close minded as the MKIV crew. Maybe you should just head over there, as it's more your style.

Dude - you consistantly try to argue with me about everything, and you dont know WTF you are talking about.

I dont claim to be the "allmighty all-knowing" engine guru who is never wrong, but when you were just a NOOB figuring out where your intake tube goes about a year ago - http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10833 - I had already owned my 7M for 8 years and heavily modified it and ran low-12 second passes... I know that isnt the best time but it was on a motor that I BUILT MYSELF. The only reason my motor failed was because of the THRUST BEARING which was killed by my RPS clutch and possibly the soft clevite bearing had something to do with it..... A lot of people have had this happen with the RPS Max Pressure plate on all different types of cars.

I know how the 7M is built and I know how the 2J is built because I have TAKEN BOTH ENGINES APART AND LOOKED AT THEM instead of conducting virtual bullshit and hearsay to build a foundation for my answers.

Doward said:
But hey, I was done with this thread, remember?

Yeah, I wish.

How about when you are done with your ghetto-ass setup we take a little run at the track?

No go back and read everything you posted and see how STUPID you look and then STFU

X-man said:
I tried using the the ITC to change timing under boost and never really saw much in the way of increases. I played around with the fuel psi and the afc alot to keep my corrections to a minimum. At 31 psi of boost I was at +1% correction to no higher than +8% in the upper rpm range. I did not want the ecu doing more with timing than it was supposed to and I figured the best way to do so was to keep corrections to a minimum.

The a/f's on the dyno were pushed to 12.0 to 12.3 but on the street at 19 psi they were kept at 11.5 to 11.7 and at 31 psi I kept them at 11.2.

Sean

Thats one reason I went to the AEM - so I could control the timing.

Safe is good - how did you figure out the lower AFR's for higher boost pressures? Was it just a seat-of-the-pants thing or were you using some type of formula, calc etc?

Ive been looking for some type of "detonation" or pre-ignition calc to approximate my boost and fuel level limits considering air temp etc..... Do you know of one?
 

Doward

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You just don't quit, do you? All butt-hurt that someone might actually disagree with you? And when you have nothing to retaliate with, you resort to name calling.

Hey guess what? You're a fag. Congrats. :weak:

You want to live in a fantasy world where your ideas are all that count, go right ahead.

You want to discuss and share ideas, maybe then you should try posting an idea and try actually discussing it. (that's what I thought we were trying to do here?)

Come to think of it, you haven't had a decent discussion regarding anything you've posted. You've outright attacked anyone that's said anything different than you, and feel like throwing out your ASE certs - which, might I add, you are on the internet and can be saying *anything* you please - as though they are some sort of permission to try to talk down to anyone that comes along.

I don't feel the need to prove a single thing here. You've already shown a lack of respect for anyone that disagrees with you, so why do you continue?

Exactly what is your arguement?

That swapping a 2JZ-GE into the MKIII, and adding a turbo, a ~$3500 expenditure, will leave you with a better platform than putting that ~$3500 into the original 7M?

Newsflash: You are the only one making this out to be a huge deal.

I and others have simply suggested that maybe that $3500 into the 7M will leave you with an equivalent platform to the 2JZ that you've cobbled together.

Your response?

p5150 said:
DUDE YOU ARE GAY

You sound like a 16 year old that's just gotten the keys to Mommy's Cressida and have 'mad tyte JDM swaps yo' in mind. That's fine, that is your prerogative.

You claim I don't know what I'm talking about, yet when I bring up fluid dynamics, I seem to have confused you? You attempted to quote me as having said two different things - you didn't understand the concept, so you attempted to belittle it. I understand someone lashing out at something they have no comprehension of, so I'm not worried about it.

You act like the fact you have torn into a 7M and a 2JZ make you an authority on mechanical engineering. I can't even begin to list the engines I've rebuilt over the years. 20? 30? I rebuild practically everything I get my hands on. You try to shadow that by the fact I didn't know the Supra had a PS idle-up feature. Nice try, though!

Hell, I custom fabricated a T61 into a stroked 2.8L '88 Camaro. Repinned the wiring harness, ran a '749 Sy/Ty setup on it with a 2 bar MAP sensor and 36pph injectors. The only turbocharged V6 Camaro in existance at the time. Schooled a couple LS1s and a turbo 350z with that car. (amazing what happens with you have 12psi from a T61 + 2800lbs car) You can argue all day that I'm a 'noob' - it doesn't change the fact I know what I'm talking about ;)

I'd be happy to take my 'ghetto ass' (again with the name calling - did you even get out of grade school?) setup and teach you a couple of things about tuning and driving. Come on down to Gainesville Raceway. You know, the place where the Gatornationals are held? I'll be down there in the Supra tuning my MAFT-Pro, and you'll probably find me over at my buddy Beej's black '01 Camaro SS - he's got a 3400 stall in that now, and HPTuners, so I'm going to show him how the VE tables work. Wednesday T&T starts back up March 29th the gates open @ 6:30pm. Should give you plenty of time to get that 2JZ-GET running, right?

Put up or shut up, buddy. :biglaugh:
 

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Ok, you guys did a very nice job of fucking this thread up.

Pull this shit again and I'm just banning you. If you cant' be civil, get the fuck off the site and go somewhere else...
 
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