1J myth #723: 1J's never break (Myth busted! thanks OneJoeZee.)OneJoeZee said:
Just curious, how many 1J's are running over 500whp, this is a serious question. Not trying to be an ass.
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Just curious, how many 1J's are running over 500whp, this is a serious question. Not trying to be an ass.
OneJoeZee said:
I wasnt trying to start an argument or anything, But for me new sensors are expensive so I pull mine from the Junkyard. 1J's are hard to find and I cant afford the money that they charge for some sensors.
+Junkyards = 5 finger discount :naughty:
Wills7MGTE said:
You'r rediculous! I came to this forum for advice! Yah it's been brought up before, but people get smarter by the day and there are new things to be learned! I have done nothing wrong by bringing it up again! If any one is out of line it is the people wasting space by saying "It's been brought up before!" Cool here it is again!
OneJoeZee said:
Im trying to say in the junkyard. The only ones I ever see around here are half finished projects people try and sell for 2K.
I have to back OneJoeZee on this and say that before I did a swap I thought parts were gonna be so hard to find and expensive and it really is a myth. True you arent gonna be going to any junkyards soon and find 1j's laying there, but I dont think this is a concern to 99% of the people running 1jz's in there cars. Parts can be had for cheap and since this is not new, guys who have been there before us have discovered and documented things like a isuzu rodeo, trooper, w/e timing belt works for us, 7m/2j compatible parts, and if we really cant find it jaymarks seems to be able to get one at a reasonable price or a fellow forums member has one they'll sell you.
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parts are not hard to find, they are not expensive, and they are very very hard to break. I try regularly.
There are many above 500whp.
Its not hard at all. I did it on a 10 minute tune on an SAFC for my baseline numbers
There are many above 500whp.
Its not hard at all. I did it on a 10 minute tune on an SAFC for my baseline numbers
MY OPINION! (And I repeat, MINE! Maybe I'm wrong, hell knows).
I was 7M-GE originally. I wanted to go turbo obviously. At least in MY country, mechanics would ALL tell me that 7M-GTE's tend to blow way too often. This is why, even the 7M lovers in this boards, tell you to get it rebuild "by someone with GRRREEEAATTT experience" or reputation. Because you have to do a VERY good rebuild and by a true PROFESSIONAL to have an engine that wont blow. I don't think the 7M sucks. It's just an older engine, with factory flaws (like headgasket and bolts??).
So, getting a 7M-GTE and rebuilding it was an option. What I did? I bought a USED 1JZ-GTE, the motormounts for it, installed it (without rebuilding), and I've been daily driving it for a couple of months now. Have not had the first mechanical problem. How many miles on it? LOL, I have no idea, seriously. Call me crazy. But this 2.5 liter engine revs up smoooooooth as hell. AND, it's 280HP on stock form, and those twins get the full boost below 3,000rpm (stock rev limit is 7,200 ??). Remember the stock 7M is only 232HP and less torque (despite being 0.5 liters bigger) than the 1JZ. And to whoever says "yeah, but you can get the 7M-GTE to 300whp with only basic mods"... well, uhhhh... if the 1J has 280 stock, I imagine reaching 300whp would require even less mods.
I dunno, the JZ series are just cooler. Have you ever seen the 7M's headgasket compared to the 1JZ gasket? It's a LAUGHABLE image. bigaaron once posted a pic like that, it made the 7M's HG look like sh*t. Of course, they do sell metal HG's and stuff, and if a "PRO" builds your 7M, it wont blow.
I'm happy with my 1JZ, but I'm not saying 7M is a bad way to go.
I was 7M-GE originally. I wanted to go turbo obviously. At least in MY country, mechanics would ALL tell me that 7M-GTE's tend to blow way too often. This is why, even the 7M lovers in this boards, tell you to get it rebuild "by someone with GRRREEEAATTT experience" or reputation. Because you have to do a VERY good rebuild and by a true PROFESSIONAL to have an engine that wont blow. I don't think the 7M sucks. It's just an older engine, with factory flaws (like headgasket and bolts??).
So, getting a 7M-GTE and rebuilding it was an option. What I did? I bought a USED 1JZ-GTE, the motormounts for it, installed it (without rebuilding), and I've been daily driving it for a couple of months now. Have not had the first mechanical problem. How many miles on it? LOL, I have no idea, seriously. Call me crazy. But this 2.5 liter engine revs up smoooooooth as hell. AND, it's 280HP on stock form, and those twins get the full boost below 3,000rpm (stock rev limit is 7,200 ??). Remember the stock 7M is only 232HP and less torque (despite being 0.5 liters bigger) than the 1JZ. And to whoever says "yeah, but you can get the 7M-GTE to 300whp with only basic mods"... well, uhhhh... if the 1J has 280 stock, I imagine reaching 300whp would require even less mods.
I dunno, the JZ series are just cooler. Have you ever seen the 7M's headgasket compared to the 1JZ gasket? It's a LAUGHABLE image. bigaaron once posted a pic like that, it made the 7M's HG look like sh*t. Of course, they do sell metal HG's and stuff, and if a "PRO" builds your 7M, it wont blow.
I'm happy with my 1JZ, but I'm not saying 7M is a bad way to go.
Im going 1JZ all the way!
I'll be going to the good guy's at driftmotion...
I will post pics of the build!
Thanks for the help... I guess
I'll be going to the good guy's at driftmotion...
I will post pics of the build!
Thanks for the help... I guess
I BELIEVE, the 1JZ is a stonger, more well built and more Reliable motor in STOCK form with more power.
You can always go single with it, proboly for not much more then going to a large turbo on the 7M.
If your going to drop a JDM engine in without doing any major work to it, and want reliability and power, go 1J. If your on a Budget, the 7M swap I believe will be cheaper, and I know will be easier.
Both motors are proven to make a lot of power when done right. It's all about what you want to start with really and your budget.
Edit: Oh, and if your even in Central Cali, I'll give ya a ride in a 1JZ Supra anytime =D
You can always go single with it, proboly for not much more then going to a large turbo on the 7M.
If your going to drop a JDM engine in without doing any major work to it, and want reliability and power, go 1J. If your on a Budget, the 7M swap I believe will be cheaper, and I know will be easier.
Both motors are proven to make a lot of power when done right. It's all about what you want to start with really and your budget.
Edit: Oh, and if your even in Central Cali, I'll give ya a ride in a 1JZ Supra anytime =D
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Flea420 said:
Thanks for the offer... I go back home to Sacramento a lot!
I might take you up on that:biglaugh: !
suprra_girl said:bla bla bla bla jdm
well the 7m is jdm
the 1j is jdm
but why don't you be a man and get a 1g
1GGEU FTW!
I want one of those engines so badly.
IJ. said:Not enough torque to run the overlocker ya need the 1jz for that!
1J isnt even fit to wipe the oil from my 7M's leaky rear seal.
