NecroCyde;1848839 said:
I know your not trying to upset people and nor am i upset at all either, its just i am tired of people singling out the reasons why somebody chose an engine simply cause they are broke. Perhaps they started on whatever platform/engine because they really LIKED it.
Did nobody take statistics?
ifyouaint1sturlast;1848654 said:
Again, to rephrase as to not offend anyone, my original statement was merely: I feel that a good majority of 1JZ owners are on the 'cheap' side or 'budget' side. Simply because the MKIII owners who are on a budget or have no job tend to go with the 1JZ instead of the 2JZ. Therefore you have an addition of many of these 'frugal' owners in the 1JZ category, and not the latter.. which ends up watering down the numbers.
Why are people getting so offended..
rakkasan;1848840 said:
I used the acronym "IMO" because it's a baseless assumption that I used. There is no way to prove each other wrong, so why try?
If you look at all of the replies in this thread, it does lend to the idea that 1JZ owners are not categorically cheaper than 2JZ owners as you imply. There are a bunch of 1JZ cars on THIS forum that guys have dumped a ton of money into. I don't read any other Supra forum, I stay here, so that might be a fallacy on my part.
Why do you think I'm on these forums? Most people here care about their cars.
So you're telling me that judging by the people in this thread, the four or so people, that I'm wrong? I'm talking about thousands. You can go on SF right now and find dozens of 1JZ swaps with the harnesses left out on the engine and wires running around everywhere. I've yet to see a 2JZ-GTE swap done like that, and left like that. How many threads have you seen of people with 1JZs not running right, selling 7M parts to fund their swaps?
I'm sorry but I'm not wrong here..
You can look at it from a statistical standpoint and say for example, 15k people have 1JZs in their MKIII's, and 5k people have 2JZs in their MKIII's. We can say that "most" 1JZ owners are on a "tight budget" (I'll leave the word cheap out since this offends people), and still have "most" (> 50%) be more individuals than their are total 2JZ-MKIII owners. See what I'm saying? Now I know you're looking at it like apples to apples. Like "I see ten 1JZ owners and ten 2JZ owners all with similar cars, no difference", well those ten cars represents a much smaller percentage of total owners/cars than the ten 2JZ owners would..
I'm simply trying to prove my point that I feel that most 1JZ MKIII owners (again, > 50%) are on a "strict budget" where as I feel that that same percentage couldn't be applied to 2JZ MKIII owners.
I don't know why so many people are offended.. I mean I'm 2JZ and I'm on a pretty tight budget as well. I'm not better than anyone, most of the 1JZs in this thread (if not all) would spank my car.
