cfurlan;1636222 said:With the car off the timing is set at 0. With a timing light and the car on running about 700 rpm's, it's at about 10 btdc. When I got the car I noticed that the po already did the rewire for the knock sensors so I'm thinking its just running so bad that it's triggering the sensor. I cleared the codes two times in a row with no change to the way the engine ran and within ten seconds the code was back on with the wire still in the diag box. Thanks