why do people buy cheep intercoolers ?

[Jspec7m88]

hmm, well besides all the very unnecessary arguing over spelling...i had a friend that had 6xx'hp....not exactly sure, but somewhere around there...he bought a GReddy FM (i think it was greddy) and ended up taking it off and putting the stock one back on. I've seen many people do this...and with all the arguments/disputes over what is better...for now, i am going to stick with the stock FMIC. (Hey, it's JDM if that helps):naughty:

Besides, it's been doing good so far. It only takes up about 1/3 of the Temp gauge...so, it's definately staying cool!

 

[jetjock]

Me too, but I digress. I never have understood why people intentionally misspell words, you just make yourself look like you're uneducated & people tend not to take you seriously. Different strokes, I guess.

Amen. Medical issues aside (and accepting everyone makes mistakes), if you're old enough to drive you're old enough to make a minimal effort at spelling and grammar. Writing is crafting, no different than crafting anything using your brain and hands. Take some pride in it. Otherwise you'll come across as an idiot. This is one of the reasons I ignore dozens of posts asking questions I know the answers to. If you want help don't expect to get it when writing like an 8 year old.

 

[Jspec7m88]

Well said, jetjock.

 

[suprahero]

I agree with jetjock about the spelling of words. I try to spell correctly even if I have to look them up in the dictionary. I think reading and writing came especially easy for him because he probably wrote his first thesis on nucleur science at the age of three.........j.k. Jet jock, but if I was ever on Who wants to be a millionaire I would want you as my phone a friend...lol.
I wish I had a logical answer pertaing to the i.c. debate, but I dont so I'll just keep reading and find out if it is o.k. to buy a $300.00 i.c. as opposed to a $1000.00 i.c. Bring on the facts for both sides.

 

[IJ.]

pertaing .

"Pertaining" perhaps

 

[suprahero]

Thanks IJ, I guess my fingers dont work as fast as my mind does when typing. I better start proof reading my posts before hitting the Post Quick Reply button.

 

[IJ.]

LOL SH I couldn't resist !

Also to address the Topic: They like bird noises?

 

[suprahero]

That last response went over my head, but my wife figured it out. Good one IJ.

 

[jetjock]

Nucleur? It's spelled "nookular" . Yeah, I suppose since I'm a technical guy I tend to be more anal than most but as I said it's a matter of taking pride in what you do. Not to mention it makes life easier for those being asked. The way I see it a poster owes it to those he's asking to at least be semi-coherent. How hard can it be? There are all kinds of on-line dictionarys, tool bars, ect. Or write it as an email and use the spell checker.

I won't get into the IC debate other than to make two points: 1) People buy them because they're inexpensive, which is an entirely different thing than something being cheap. 2) Unless the originator of this thread possesses engineering expertise in several disciplines he may wish to refrain from making judgments.

 

[NashMan]

well this thread whent to shit


in the end buy a good ic cooling is what it's all about

 

[shaeff]

i dont think it went to shit, i think people just want proof. one cannot expect to post how shitty the ebay intercoolers are unless one has proof several others stated that they were nearly identical to the upper end models. all they want is proof.

-shaeff

 

[NashMan]

comon sence the less mealt = less cooling with high flow


and i read these things called book's that have words in them and they tell me many things

 

[outofstep]

comon sence the less mealt = less cooling with high flow


and i read these things called book's that have words in them and they tell me many things

I'll say it again because you didnt get it the last two times.

The fin density on my ebay core is the same as my spearco core.

 

[lintlars]

Can you please explain "the less mealt" we all can read as well Im sure many of us have read maximum boost it is essential reading material

 

[TONY!]

^I think he means less metal.
I suppose he means that more metal will give you more surface area that will provide more heat transfer.



Since I am here...sorry to go off topic for a bit in your thread, NashMan, but:

I really don't know why so many went off topic and started to discuss the importance of proper writing on this thread.
I am all for writing clearly and those that are curious can read my thoughts on writing on the following post that I have linked:
http://www.toyota-supra.info/forums/showpost.php?p=17478&postcount=9


Do people really know how much effort NashMan already puts in making posts? No.
For all you folks know, he could be putting twice the effort than some that write clearly. I am addressing folks in this thread because they chose to bring up the importance of proper writing in a thread made by a man who has dyslexia.

There is a big difference between those that are troubled by dyslexia and those 0+h3r p3opl3 wh0 +h!nk !+ !$ c00l t@ konst@an+ly +yp3 l!k3 th3y gradua+3d fr0m +h3 h00d. (Translation: other people who think it is cool to constantly type like they graduated from the hood.)

In this day and age, we live in a world that has the technology to overcome many ailments and problems. I think that the biggest thing about having an ailment in this time in history is not the ailment, but having people stare, asking dumb questions, making needless comments, and constantly reminding others about their shortcomings.
That is how I see it, if one were to have an ailment, many times it would be society that treats them more unpleasantly than their actual ailment would.

People come on the net to just get away from work, domestic issues, problems, and as a sort break from the world. Let him enjoy being here. Do we really need to keep reminding Nash for the 1000'th time? It will not cure his dyslexia any.

If you can't be understanding to him and find it so displeasing to read his posts, help yourself to another thread--there's plenty other threads out there

 

[stratoayu]

well said tony

 

[NashMan]

I'll say it again because you didnt get it the last two times.

The fin density on my ebay core is the same as my spearco core.

really well i have sean about 4 ebay coolers and there way diffent then sperco core/garret


sperco and garet make very simlur cores



lets put it this way i can not see though my ic and ebay one i can read a book on the other end of it end tank to end tank

 

[drunk_medic]

More metal : stronger, but will heat-soak and not cool as efficiently
Less metal : weaker; hot/cold cycles may cause cracks in weak/thin sections and near welds. Better heat/cooling transfer though..

The trick is to get the right thickness. Fin density is important as well, but the difference between the name brands and the EBay ones in that arena is nothing, as has been previously stated by outofstep. The difference may be in the quality of metals or machinework that go into the ICs. Maybe HKS or Spearco does micrometer checks before the welding process begins to ensure the proper thickness of metal to prevent fatigue/wear, and we are just paying for a name brand and a little extra quality assurance. Maybe "taking a gamble" on the EBay FMICs means you are really taking a chance on something new and potentially good. It could also be that with the name brands, they had brand new machines and processes, and the demand AND supply were low on these parts when they were put into the product catalog, so the price was high. Then, the street racing craze hit Japan and the price went up.. and it came to america and the prices went higher because items now had to be imported [in the case of HK$/Greedy]. The price standard for a HKS racing intercooler was $2000 or more, so that's where the bar was held. Now it's about 10 years later. Different people probably have the manufacturing process down, or the "secret" is out. Let's just imagine that the machines for making such items are plentiful, simple to operate, supplies are there, and you have unskilled labor in the 2nd and 3rd world to work it all, and there is no QA to check it. WHAT IF these items need little or no checking to begin with these days? That is where you take a $2000 intercooler and sell it for less than 1/10th the price - less labor [no QA for checking it all] and cheap labor [unskilled workers in other countries where $5 a week feeds your family]. I have the feeling that in the near future, if these are confirmed to be good working items, the price on them could skyrocket.

 

[lintlars]

there is alot of coolers on the market these days and alot of them are absolute crap but alot are very nice and are made just as good as many spearco and garrett products I think this topic has been done to death on here on Supraforums please dont bring it up again , many things I will not buy on ebay but its all buyer beware but to say they are crap with no proof is not right please have some actual proof next time this is brought up.

I really did not understand your post 32 I was not poking fun at you

 

[bigaaron]

The dude who started this thread has no idea what he is talking about. Let him blow his money on whatever he wants. I think people buy the name expensive brand ic's so they can brag about how much their intercooler costs, not because it actually will perform better.