Who put stock 2jz cams into the 1jz?

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Depending on turbo, how so?


Ric said:
Why what? You're telling me you're going thru all the effort to install cams for higher RPM on a japanese junkyard motor that's been sitting for 10 years in a field, and not installing new valve stem seals, not properly shimming the cam to the cam specs, and not putting in aftermarket valve springs and retainers to take advange of the new cam's powerband? HKS 264's breathe good til 9500rpms. Stock springs float at 8000ish depending on turbo.
 

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Ric said:
Who cares about peak hp, it's the power under the curve that counts. Thats where the big name cams out perform the untested regrinds.

So you are saying that Zazzn's dyno showing over 60 rwhp gains with the Crowers should just be ignored. You should listen to yourself sometimes :rofl:

And before you spout out something else about HKS or JUN cams, I own HKS cams. However, the Crower or Brian Crowers are great cams as well, so why are you knocking on them? Rudy tell you to say that....lol
 

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Span, more airflow on a bigger turbo = more pressure on the valves to stay open. Stock twins @ 18psi i didnt float til 8500, single @ 12psi = float at 8000.

Im sure crower cams are ok, but we're talking 10+ years of proven use on JUN/HKS compared to 6 months of crower.
 

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Ric said:
With all the effort needed in the purchase of new shims, retainers, springs, stem seals... shit man, you might as well spend the extra $200 and get good cams from Jun or HKS.


Ric said:
Why what? You're telling me you're going thru all the effort to install cams for higher RPM on a japanese junkyard motor that's been sitting for 10 years in a field, and not installing new valve stem seals, not properly shimming the cam to the cam specs, and not putting in aftermarket valve springs and retainers to take advange of the new cam's powerband? HKS 264's breathe good til 9500rpms. Stock springs float at 8000ish depending on turbo.

Ric said:
Who cares about peak hp, it's the power under the curve that counts. Thats where the big name cams out perform the untested regrinds.

RIC please STFU. I dont know if you are doing this on purpose but. nothing you say helps anyone ever. I know your not a fool so how can you seem so completely oblivious to the fact that no one takes you seriously, and will always tear u apart. even on the rare occasions that you might say something relatively helpful? from your perspective, you think you relaying good info that benefits the community, but in reality. your just stepping on feet and cluttering up the threads with ass inspired theories.

You think the reason you get banned from every board is that people are'nt ready for the "truth" and you know something that they dont and they just wont accept it. RIC the fact of the matter is your banned because you pass off opinions that are based off shit you read on the internet. and piss people off by posting countless times to get people to agree with you. your not Larry from SP, or Ryan Woon or anyone kind of innovator. you have'nt done anything based on your own physical research to backup anything you ever say. yet you want to be recognized as someone who is a big asset to the community. stop now or your just going to get banned here too. then what? are there any other boards to go to and start the whole cycle over again on? just step down from your self coded virtual high horse. and quit while you are behind
 

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Boostage said:
Ric Johnson aka RIC aka Itsnotasoarer aka Rudy's left nut..

That's some funny stuff right there.


Boost- Thank you for your kind words on letting us know how you feel about Ric and we all agree. But, let's not get this thread locked due to a pissing match. I'm trying to find out some actual power gains from people that have done a before and after dyno. I want to make sure its worth my time and money to get them machined and install them.
 

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Ric said:
If you want my nuts that bad, you should just ask me out on a date. I love chinese.

Knock it off Ric, don't jack with this thread anymore unless you have some hard evidence about the cams. I'm not trying to be a dick, but you do this all the time to threads and they go way off topic and they usually get locked.
 
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Evidence? IF someone's about to blow half a grand in cams, and the mk3 crowd isnt exactly ballin.. what should you tell them? Get the expermental unproven units that we have 3 ppl on the internet to give you feedback, or the ones that have been out for 10+ years that give proven results time and time again for thousands of people?


All my opinions point towards proven products in the 2JZGTE world, and that's a fact you can search for in every single one of my posts.
 
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Yea, evidence of the cams that I started this thread about. I don't care to hear anything about HKS, Jun, and BC cams. I am interested in the 2JZGTE stock cams!!! Hence the reason I said stop jacking this thread.
 

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AF1JZ said:
Yea, evidence of the cams that I started this thread about. I don't care to hear anything about HKS, Jun, and BC cams. I am interested in the 2JZGTE stock cams!!! Hence the reason I said stop jacking this thread.

bout 5-10 peak hp and 30whp under the curve with a higher rev range to mid 7000s instead of dying at 6500
 

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I'm not even going to touch this one with a ten foot poll. Boostage already said what needed to be said about Dic. As always, Dic has not one fucking thing to back up anything he's saying. Just alot of talk talk talk about what someone else told him. He is the opposite of King Midas. Just about every thread Dic touches on this forum turns to shit. I'm not going to waste my morning at work again trying to get Dic to think rationally.

For anyone whose BS detector is broken, Crower cams for the 1J are undeniably a great purchase regardless of what Dic says and there is dyno tests and charts to back that up done by ZaZzn himself.
 

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Guy here in Melbourne runs them and his car pulls nice to redline. Definatley worth the relatively small cost of the upgrade.

I would love to comment on Crower's history of performance since the 1950s but I wont derail the thread any more for Ric's sake :)
 

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AF1JZ said:
Knock it off Ric, don't jack with this thread anymore unless you have some hard evidence about the cams. I'm not trying to be a dick, but you do this all the time to threads and they go way off topic and they usually get locked.
AF - since somehow this thread has made an incredible turn off topic from talking about 2J cams and we're now talking about aftermarket cams, here is some good info provided by ZaZzn about his cam group buy.

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41269

Also, notice Ric actually posted on the first page showing interest in them!!! The same fucker that's talking so much shit about them in this very thread!! Once again talking about Rudy this Rudy that. Would you take advice from a guy who can't even think for himself and just parrots what everyone else tells him?

Ric said:
Ill see if i can get rudy to buy these for me :)

114whp gain? Jesus. That would put me close to 600whp on pump gas if I wanted :)


How does it feel to prove your hypocrisy AGAIN, Ric?


This is all the time I'm going to commit to this thread. For those that care, the evidence for the Crower cams is there and they are worth it. HKS and JUN cams are nice too but to say you shouldn't waste your money on Crower's would be just stupid. It's not like Crower is some newbie cam company. How long have they been in this business?
 
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OneJoeZee said:
AF - since somehow this thread has made an incredible turn off topic from talking about 2J cams and we're now talking about aftermarket cams, here is some good info provided by ZaZzn about his cam group buy.

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41269

Yea, I saw that group buy before. Just don't have the money for that kind of upgrade. I would love too get those especially after the dyno results that ZaZzn posted. Thanks for the info Joe.

foreverpsycotic said:
which 2jz cams would be better for a stock twin/small single application, jdm or usdm

USDM
 

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Sorry AF, I knew you were interested in 2J cams but Dic turned the thread somewhere else so I threw up evidence showing the gains for Crower cams which he is so against now. Even though he was so interested in them before. Funny how this guy flip flops on so many things.


Here is before and after dyno charts provided by psifactor about her experience with 2JZ cams.


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After
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Boom, done. No bickering and mindless banter needed. The charts and numbers speak for themselves.