When are custom fuel lines required?

[TurboStreetCar]

Those fittings are all connected to each other, this is what they look like apart. This is what 257.71 in fittings looks like. The braided sections were another 56.90, Plus 41.90 for aluminum tube ($356.51), Plus AFPR & Gauge, flare tool, Pump and shipping. Yay!

 

[upgradedsupra]

why all the extra fittings, I have half of those.

Duane

 

[gaboonviper85]

me

7m or the chevy.....does that also include you're $15,000 standalone setup as well as your propane?

Kid asked a simple answer and got a had full of poo....I haven't run fuel lines or researched the stock limits of our current system so I didn't answer him...but the one answer he got was pure crap.

 

[TurboStreetCar]

why all the extra fittings, I have half of those.

Duane

Im running aluminum lines with a union in the middle for ease of installation and repair. Thats what its going to take.

You have an a1k right? Braided line to the rail? Thats alot less fittings, but more money overall for the line.

Pic of it aranged how its going to be set up, The "Extra fitting next to the y-block is a cap as im not going to be running a second walbro for a bit but i still needed to adapt from -6 to -8 so im running the y-block with one post capped for now. Also since im not running dual walbros now one of those bulkhead fittings i have set up for feed will be used for return. Also realized i ordered 2 extra nuts and sleeves for -8 and -6, When i ordered two i didnt realize it was pairs. :aigo: good thing there REALLY cheap haha.

 

[KicknAsphlt]

WTF?? Do you believe the bullshit you speak or do you just talk and talk too hear your own voice!

How the hell do you simply block off the fuel return short of doing a 100% custom job with special pumps etc???

Why would you need special pumps? If you want to run returnless, you just move the FPR to feed the rail and block the rail outlet with a plug. Not that hard...

 

[upgradedsupra]

me

7m or the chevy.....does that also include you're $15,000 standalone setup as well as your propane?

Kid asked a simple answer and got a had full of poo....I haven't run fuel lines or researched the stock limits of our current system so I didn't answer him...but the one answer he got was pure crap.

Ian doesn't have propane. Maybe in his BBQ

Im running aluminum lines with a union in the middle for ease of installation and repair. Thats what its going to take.

You have an a1k right? Braided line to the rail? Thats alot less fittings, but more money overall for the line.

A1K??


Why add the extra work if you can use one single pump and less fittings etc..To each is own though.

Duane

 

[jugodegolf]

OEM lines are fine to 600 but personally, I would add them before. (depending on budget of course) If your goal is lower,(which it is) fine, leave it.

Rail, leave it, unless you plan on making a lot more power than I have. (I still run OEM rail)

Done!

Duane

:agreed:

the other cool thing about running new lines is the fact you can 50 yard punt and adios the stock fuel filter. you may look into the fuel line like IJ runs. it works well and cheaper than doing full stainless. my full #10 to dual #6 at the rail in stainless added up in a hurry!

the stock return will be fine.

interesting reading

 

[IJ.]

7m or the chevy.....does that also include you're $15,000 standalone setup as well as your propane?

Kid asked a simple answer and got a had full of poo....I haven't run fuel lines or researched the stock limits of our current system so I didn't answer him...but the one answer he got was pure crap.

I don't think TX's answer was in any way "Crap".... :nono:

Returnless makes a whole bunch of sense for many reasons.

I haven't ran Propane in my car for years now.

 

[TurboStreetCar]

A1K??


Why add the extra work if you can use one single pump and less fittings etc..To each is own though.

Duane

Aeromotive A1000? I would like to have run a single pump but couldnt find a single pump that i could easily use that will support 600hp.

Problem with the A1k is that it needs to be gravity fed and im not looking to go fuel cell or sump the tank. Also noise is of SLIGHT concern, and Aeromotive doesnt offer a single pump other then the A1k that can support 600hp. I needed an intank solution and either dual walbros, or a walbro and 040 fit the bill. Id rather have a little too much pump then have one pump about at the limit.

One pump will be activated with boost so i wont be needlessly pumping when im not in higher boost levels.

 

[upgradedsupra]

Aeromotive A1000? I would like to have run a single pump but couldnt find a single pump that i could easily use that will support 600hp.

I don't run that pump anymore, I had to step it up. I now run a Weldon 2345 (supports 2000 HP) You didn't look hard for single pumps that support that number.

Problem with the A1k is that it needs to be gravity fed and im not looking to go fuel cell or sump the tank.

You do not need a sump, you can run a line at the bottom tank. (add A&N fitting to the tank) Ron, and Nate have it set-up like that, easy.

Also noise is of SLIGHT concern, and Aeromotive doesnt offer a single pump other then the A1k that can support 600hp. I needed an intank solution and either dual walbros, or a walbro and 040 fit the bill. Id rather have a little too much pump then have one pump about at the limit.

Aero makes the A1000 and an Eliminator pump. XS also makes a pump that would support that number. They are a tad noisy but EASY to find a single pump that supports 600 hp.

One pump will be activated with boost so i wont be needlessly pumping when im not in higher boost levels.

You can have it so the pump doesn't pump full at all times, don't assume you can't

IMO single makes more sense since you have less to worry about going wrong.

Duane

 

[ATL88Supra]

i use copper lines with A/C insulation from the tank to the front, it works very nice bends well

 

[ogre]

I would like to replace my fuel lines with -6an feed -6an return , not because I plan on making 600hp but because my stock lines have rusted thru in a few spots and are leaking... The rust ended up eating up alot of stuff and I replaced all the rear hard brake lines and all 4 calipers the car. I just got the car it has been sitting since 2000 and I am in the process of rebuilding/refreshing everything.

I would like to see some picture of the bulk head fittings installed on the supra stock tank, and maybe see where everyone routed there new lines , and what you guys fastened the lines down with...

 

[TurboStreetCar]

I don't run that pump anymore, I had to step it up. I now run a Weldon 2345 (supports 2000 HP) You didn't look hard for single pumps that support that number.

You do not need a sump, you can run a line at the bottom tank. (add A&N fitting to the tank) Ron, and Nate have it set-up like that, easy.

Aero makes the A1000 and an Eliminator pump. XS also makes a pump that would support that number. They are a tad noisy but EASY to find a single pump that supports 600 hp.

You can have it so the pump doesn't pump full at all times, don't assume you can't

IMO single makes more sense since you have less to worry about going wrong.

Duane

I know theres single pumps that support that number, but those werent for me. I had thought about running a line to the bottom of the tank into the stock pump location but i didnt like the idea of it possibly becoming un submerged while turning or something, i feel better having the pump actually submerged in the fuel where it can prime it self quickly. It also says it could shorten the pump life not having it sumped or fuel cell-ed.

I was actually going to put an a1k in the tank as it would be perfect but i don't think it would fit :icon_mad:

I was going to PWM the A1k (if i could use it) using and output from the 8860 and was going to use it to PWM the walbro but ive read the gear-rotor design of the walbro makes them not a good choice to PWM. Ive read it chews up the rotors from the on/off cycling :dunno:

By all means i would like to run a single pump but i want it to be and in-tank pump and one that i can more easily control.

Dual walbro or walbro/040 will work for me and be pretty easy to set up. Its also tried and true.

Im not dissagreeing with you at all Duane, but this is just the solution ive come up with as something easy and readily available. Also its nice because i have one walbro now, so to upgrade i just add another and plumb it in. :naughty:

 

[IJ.]

Happy with my dual Aeromotive Tsunami's in tank and PWM'd by the MoTeC.

Trying closed loop returnless fuel control this time so no FPR at all.

 

[TurboStreetCar]

Your and your fancy platinum plated engine management.:biglaugh:

 

[upgradedsupra]

Your and your fancy platinum plated engine management.:biglaugh:

Why not get one too? You can be a part of the MoTeC team! :biglaugh:

 

[upgradedsupra]

I know theres single pumps that support that number, but those werent for me. I had thought about running a line to the bottom of the tank into the stock pump location but i didnt like the idea of it possibly becoming un submerged while turning or something, i feel better having the pump actually submerged in the fuel where it can prime it self quickly. It also says it could shorten the pump life not having it sumped or fuel cell-ed.

I was actually going to put an a1k in the tank as it would be perfect but i don't think it would fit :icon_mad:

I was going to PWM the A1k (if i could use it) using and output from the 8860 and was going to use it to PWM the walbro but ive read the gear-rotor design of the walbro makes them not a good choice to PWM. Ive read it chews up the rotors from the on/off cycling :dunno:

By all means i would like to run a single pump but i want it to be and in-tank pump and one that i can more easily control.

Dual walbro or walbro/040 will work for me and be pretty easy to set up. Its also tried and true.

Im not dissagreeing with you at all Duane, but this is just the solution ive come up with as something easy and readily available. Also its nice because i have one walbro now, so to upgrade i just add another and plumb it in. :naughty:

lol You confuse me, or you have your lady typing for you now. One min you tell me you couldn't find a pump (single) that support the hp, then you say, you know they are out there. hahaha Damn, I give up!! I was simply telling you that you could find a 600 hp single pump, no matter, just sayin.

To each is own.

 

[TurboStreetCar]

lol You confuse me, or you have your lady typing for you now. One min you tell me you couldn't find a pump (single) that support the hp, then you say, you know they are out there. hahaha Damn, I give up!! I was simply telling you that you could find a 600 hp single pump, no matter, just sayin.

To each is own.

:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh: No no, Im typing for me. You quoted me the first time, i said:

Aeromotive A1000? I would like to have run a single pump but couldnt find a single pump that i could easily use that will support 600hp.

See i said I and Easily :icon_bigg and i know bieng a MOD you can see i didnt edit that in just now haha. Ill use the words of IJ that using a big external is a bit Agricultural for my needs/liking. Im really only shooting for about the 500-550 mark to the tire, but i want a little extra pump for safety, just not enough to warrant a big external.

Motec is too rich for my blood. I can barely afford my car as it is with my 8860, Your/Ians management is worth double my car!!!! Ill just be happy my car runs/drives, i dont need no stinkin MoTeC! :biggrinbo

Though deep down i wish i could run a big fancy platinum plated EMS that serves me dinner. :wtc:

 

[dbsupra90]

You do not need a sump, you can run a line at the bottom tank. (add A&N fitting to the tank) Ron, and Nate and Dave have it set-up like that, easy.

set up the same way inside the baffle using a bulkhead fitting and a modified stock pick up filter.

 

[TurboStreetCar]

Nice Setup, im far from finishing my fuel system, well see what happens.