What should I do with these rods?
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Agreed. Plus, if you can save some rotating mass and you are going for big numbers, just DO it.Reign_Maker said:
I rung up a cryo shop this arvo and enquired about the process.He asked me that temp did i want to get down to and i said i wasnt sure as i was making enquiries and i wanted to make my stock rods stronger.Anyone have any ideas on what temps to go down to and if you include the arp rod bolts too?
Miggles, this particular shop that I was going to use has a convectionary system that fluctuates teh tempurature from 400 degrees F down to -340 degrees F... A convectionary system is much better than liquid nitrogen injection, because it creates a clean and even coverage of the part, allowing the whole piece to heat and cool at relatively the same speed... *instead of the bottom getting cold "first" then moving up to the top... make sense?*
Anyone feel like donating a set of Pauters to me? KthxbyeBBQomgWTFftw...
Anyone feel like donating a set of Pauters to me? KthxbyeBBQomgWTFftw...
Hey Jake. I would go with after market rods for sure since your goals are higher for this next set-up your running 
Like Dave says Just "DO" it. :biglaugh:
Duane
Like Dave says Just "DO" it. :biglaugh:
Duane
yeah FTW go all the way jake! I dont think youll end up kicking yourself one night when your pissed off cause you didn't spend the extra cash!
Jake: I've held my tongue so far to see what would happen with this but my thoughts are for the HP level you're aiming at get some good rods just for the peace of mind.
Peice of mind is a fgood thing. You don't want to push power on the OEM rods much over 650 RWHP IMO which is why I now have a new set-up.
Duane
DO IT!
Duane
DO IT!
Duane: Agreed 100%
I'll never make that sort of power but I know my Pauters will never be the weak link!
I'll never make that sort of power but I know my Pauters will never be the weak link!
Gimme some money guys... go ahead: DO IT!
Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... donate a set of Carillo, or Pauter, or Eagles: DO IT!
Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... donate a set of Carillo, or Pauter, or Eagles: DO IT!
Get the aftermarket rods and get the peace of mind. I'm also currently acquiring parts to build up another engine for my supra and have tossed up the same idea many times myself. I rather build a motor that can take a lot more power than what my goals are. This way, i know that as long as i'm maintaining it properly, i can drive it hard as often as i want and not have to worry about the motor itself. Just as long as it's tuned properly.
I believe that you should build it strong and right to begin with, then all you have to do is add mods (leaving a certain reasonable safety margin), 'til you had enough, are broke, or scared of driving it.
One thing people don't realize is that the money they spend on all the external mods is more than enough to build a very strong motor, then grow from there. You can change mods anytime you want, but you can't just get in there and make your motor stronger, whenever you need, unless you have a shop at your disposal.
Start with a stock supra for example....
Cost of downpipe and full exhaust gets you a set of forged pistons.
Cost of electronic boost controller gets you arp hardware
Cost of good IC kit, and BOV gets you crower type rods pretty much.
and bunch of other examples like this. Leave the clutch and the rest as is.
Everything you can do at home, even the clutch if funds are tight, wait 'til later. You can call a few friends and swap your clutch when you're at that point.
The car won't be very fast after this, but u'd be surprised how much faster and stronger it'll pull compared to stock.
At this point, you KNOW you have a strong engine. Then you spend the time to build it slowly as money becomes available. It'll take you less time, money, and effort to achieve big numbers than taking a stock engine with 120k miles and trying to get in the Guinness book of records. You'll always be patching something up and not enjoying the car itself.
2JZ put high HP stock because the stock platform is a seriously built motor. I wish MKIII guys would begin there as well. Then we'd have nothing to envy.
Sorry for the book, but got a little bored :biglaugh:
I believe that you should build it strong and right to begin with, then all you have to do is add mods (leaving a certain reasonable safety margin), 'til you had enough, are broke, or scared of driving it.
One thing people don't realize is that the money they spend on all the external mods is more than enough to build a very strong motor, then grow from there. You can change mods anytime you want, but you can't just get in there and make your motor stronger, whenever you need, unless you have a shop at your disposal.
Start with a stock supra for example....
Cost of downpipe and full exhaust gets you a set of forged pistons.
Cost of electronic boost controller gets you arp hardware
Cost of good IC kit, and BOV gets you crower type rods pretty much.
and bunch of other examples like this. Leave the clutch and the rest as is.
Everything you can do at home, even the clutch if funds are tight, wait 'til later. You can call a few friends and swap your clutch when you're at that point.
The car won't be very fast after this, but u'd be surprised how much faster and stronger it'll pull compared to stock.
At this point, you KNOW you have a strong engine. Then you spend the time to build it slowly as money becomes available. It'll take you less time, money, and effort to achieve big numbers than taking a stock engine with 120k miles and trying to get in the Guinness book of records. You'll always be patching something up and not enjoying the car itself.
2JZ put high HP stock because the stock platform is a seriously built motor. I wish MKIII guys would begin there as well. Then we'd have nothing to envy.
Sorry for the book, but got a little bored :biglaugh:
Great post sorcereur!
So often in the Mk3 world it's done the exact opposite and then people wonder why they've just driven over their crank and rods!
So often in the Mk3 world it's done the exact opposite and then people wonder why they've just driven over their crank and rods!
supra90turbo said:
Thanks for ALL the advice... I think for the bling factor, the peace of mind factor, the cool factor, the wow factor and all the other envious factors: IM gunna just get a set of Pauters... I was thinking about Crowers, but from what I gather, they're shot peened stockers... Actually, I think Im just gunna flip a coin and see what it lands on... Wish me luck!
The Crowers are a very nice Rod and far from shotpeened stockers Jake!
Carillos are another that made it to my short list!
If I could find a set Mechart made some brilliant rods way back.
Carillos are another that made it to my short list!
If I could find a set Mechart made some brilliant rods way back.