what is the best setting for timing:

[mk3bandit]

i am rebuilding my 7mgte top end, replacing the"HKS 1.2 MHG, arp bolts, water pump, dual 12 electric fans, valve seals, and all the vacuum lines". im going to be setting the timing in the next few days. i want to know what the best set timing for a mostly stock 7m.

any help will be great.

Thanks

 

[RiyadYar]

10 degrees btdc
http://www.supramania.com/forums/content.php?167-GUIDE-Setting-your-ignition-timing

 

[radiod]

No need to take it away from the TSRM spec. Spec is there for a reason

 

[mk3bandit]

ok just one more question. im not sure where top dead center is on the Camshaft position sensor. i just dont want to put it in wrong or mess anything up. im going to be setting the timing and putting the sensor in tomorrow, if my turbo comes in on time. i have the crank and cams all at top dead center, just ready to get it back on the road after the blown head gasket.

 

[92TealSupra]

ok just one more question. im not sure where top dead center is on the Camshaft position sensor. i just dont want to put it in wrong or mess anything up. im going to be setting the timing and putting the sensor in tomorrow, if my turbo comes in on time. i have the crank and cams all at top dead center, just ready to get it back on the road after the blown head gasket.

Those blue hoses where did you get those? If you got them at a auto store be careful. I bought one and placed it on the brake booster hose like you have, motor got hot and vac line pinched I had almost no brakes.

 

[mk3bandit]

ill have to keep that in mind. im going to keep the old ones. they were in good shape, just wanted it to look good after polishing everything up after replacing the head gasket, valve seals, turbo, and a few other things.

 

[j3r3my]

those hoses suck..no offense just that ive been through it.when they heat up they sometimes suck into themselves and some may melt..just a heads up and as for timing,time it to specs..and also as for the timing marks 0 deg on the crank pulley then the cam gears have lines in them that you match with the lines on the rear timing cover on the head and lastly set the cps accordingly..gl with your project!

 

[92TealSupra]

ill have to keep that in mind. im going to keep the old ones. they were in good shape, just wanted it to look good after polishing everything up after replacing the head gasket, valve seals, turbo, and a few other things.

Good, to hear you're keeping those. You might pinch a line that would be for the FPR; which would be no good. There are other important lines as well.

 

[mk3bandit]

well im trying to get the camshaft sensor in correct. i got everything at top dead center "crank, and cams" i just want to keep it in specs. "10 btdc"

 

[enjoi.this]

Now that you have all the timing marks on the cams and crank lined up. Hold the CPS in your hand and turn it to line up the timing marks on it. You will have to eye ball it when going into the head so its in the middle of the adjustment range.

The CPS will turn as its going in because of the spiral cut gear. But make sure the housing still stays lined up. Its kinda funky to get it right but once you figure it out your good to go.

 

[mk3bandit]

ok i found the answer to my second question.http://www.supras.com/06/techcenter/images/881.jpg

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Now that you have all the timing marks on the cams and crank lined up. Hold the CPS in your hand and turn it to line up the timing marks on it. You will have to eye ball it when going into the head so its in the middle of the adjustment range.

The CPS will turn as its going in because of the spiral cut gear. But make sure the housing still stays lined up. Its kinda funky to get it right but once you figure it out your good to go.

thanks man. i just dont want to mess up the old 7mgte. thanks fro the tip, its going to com in good use.

 

[enjoi.this]

no prob, you dont really have to worry about messing up the motor as long as you put a timing light on it. It will either run like shit or make no power if its not right.

 

[mk3bandit]

im not sure if this is how the CPS should be at TDC. im just trying to do it right the first time.:aigo: its driving me crazy now, this is the best i can get it to line up. i lined it up to TSRM. just not 100% with this CPS this is the first time with a car with out a distributor. any help would be great. Thanks

 

[sweaver]

http://http://www.supramania.com/forums/content.php?181-How-To-basic-timing-instructions-CPS-alignment

if that link doesnt work just click home and its in the mk3 teck guides their are two different articles. it didnt look like your cps was in the correct place to me. also check the #1 cylender with the spark plug removed with a wooden dowl in it to be sure as you move the cam each way

 

[mk3bandit]

im going to check the TDC tomorrow on the crank and cams. and try to set the CPS. i haven't tried to start it yet. i want to make sure its how it needs to be first.

 

[koldfire08]

I set my CPS in the middle of the adjustment groove. So you can Retard/Advance the timing when it needs adjusting.

 

[mk3bandit]

well i got it running today. just did it like yall said. so im happy now. might take it some where that can look at it to make sure it top notch.[video=youtube;Fu5wiYhzPNk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu5wiYhzPNk[/video]