what does 70mph, rain, and a wall get you?

b005t3d

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i was on my way to work and it started to rain a bit, so i turned on my head lights and slowed down to the speed limit(70 mph). a tractor trailer was in the middle lane(out of 3 lanes) so i merged, passed and remerged in front about 6 or 7 car lengths in front of him.lets just say that a 3 lane highway gets real small when a tractor runs up your ass and nudges you. next thing i know is im out of control and heading for the concrete wall on the inside of the highway. this was about 10 seconds after i passed the truck. i nosed the wall and spun around to the passenger side. i slid for about 200 yards on the concrete wall. so, i really am going to need all the help with alot of body pieces that y'all might just have layin around that you can part with dirt cheap. PLEASE HELP!!!! but eitherway, heres the pix, enjoy!!
 

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suprahero

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b005t3d said:
i was on my way to work and it started to rain a bit, so i turned on my head lights and slowed down to the speed limit(70 mph). a tractor trailer was in the middle lane(out of 3 lanes) so i merged, passed and remerged in front about 6 or 7 car lengths in front of him.lets just say that a 3 lane highway gets real small when a tractor runs up your ass and nudges you. next thing i know is im out of control and heading for the concrete wall on the inside of the highway. this was about 10 seconds after i passed the truck. i nosed the wall and spun around to the passenger side. i slid for about 200 yards on the concrete wall. so, i really am going to need all the help with alot of body pieces that y'all might just have layin around that you can part with dirt cheap. PLEASE HELP!!!! but eitherway, heres the pix, enjoy!!


How could we possibly enjoy pictures of a suffering supra? Good luck with the rebuild, and no I don't have any parts. Sorry.
 

b005t3d

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kwnate said:
So you gave a semi 7 lengths, the slowed down to 70mph and he ran into the back of you?
we were both going down a hill and i merely let off the gas pedal and about 10 seconds later or so, got taped and sent flying out of control.
 

jimi87-t

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Thats because the simi needs to gain speed going down hill to help keep speed, (power to weight ratio on a loaded rig sucks) also if he would have hit the brakes in the rain, he very well could have "jack knifed". (Edit: I'm not saying the truck diver was right). I've been around big rigs all my life, it's a totally different driving method, if you don't realize it as a four wheeler, these are the results. Sorry for the out come, but hopefully you learned a lesson.
 
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Adjuster

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Did the semi truck stop?
Was he cited by the PD for following too close?
Who's his insurance company?
Are you injured?
*****
Cold hard truth here. (I do this for a living, so feel free to ask away.)
Your car is a total loss.
The front impact bar is swayed over to the left side by the impact, and your rear impact bar is swayed over left as well. (That is what buckled your left quarter panel, and closed up the left fender so you crushed it when you opened up your door.)

The semi truck is 100% at fault for the loss. When it's raining, you need to slow down. You did the right thing, slowing down is fine in the rain, but he failed to maintain a safe following distance and hit you.

To fix your car, your going to need a minimum of frame setup and about 4 pulls on the frame rack. (These pulls will take some of the damage out of your left quarter panel, but it will not fix your left fender, or the direct impact damage to your right side front and rear.) The cost of repairs will exceed the value of the car. (Total loss in the mind of the insurance company.)

I'm no lawyer, so I can't give you leagal advice, but here's what I'd do.

1) Go to the emergency room right now, and get checked out. Tell them you were in an accident, hit by a semi truck and spun out, and you want to make sure your OK. (If your sore, that's all the better.) Get a MRI or CT scan done if you can, but X-rays at a minimum to make sure you have nothing broken.
2) Contact this semi truck's insurance company and get the claim started now.
3) Start looking for comparable Mk'3s for sale in your area. You may need to look on Autotrader.com and other sites like this to get values of what your car was/is worth.
4) Pull anything of value you want to keep off the car. Stereo and other items like boost control and SAFC's don't add any value in the mind of the insurance company, and you can use them on your next car.
5) Make a injury claim NOW. DO NOT TELL THEM YOUR FINE IN ANY WAY. Tell them your sore, and in pain, and that the guy that ran into you owes you for the loss of your car, and your pain and suffering.

Ok, so now that your ground rules are setup, here's how it's going to play out.
The other guy's insurance company will tell you that your car is a total loss, and it's worth 2000.00 or less. (possibly might be higher, but not much.)
Your going to have to argue to get any value out of your car.
They will offer you settlement amounts on your injury claim based on medical treatment and what the Dr. writes down. (Again, DO NOT TELL THE Dr. your fine, but say you want to be sure your going to be OK, and that your sore if your sore. Don't play act, your going to be sore looking at your impact photos.)

If the insurance company of the semi truck driver says your partially at fault, explain they are wrong, and that a jury will agree with you. You slowed down in the rain, you were proceeding with caution, and a speeding, out of control semi truck driver ran into the back of your car, spinning you out and almost killing you? And your at fault? LOL Laugh at them!! Loudly and explain your ready to get a lawyer and sue if they don't just do the right thing and take care of you and your car.

When they offer you an accepable amount for the total loss of your car, then you can settle your injury claim with them.
Here is how that works.
If your ER visit cost 1000.00 you can generally get a matching amount in "new" money to you, and they pay the ER Dr. bills. (So, by being smart, and working the system, they will pay you money for the pain and trouble the asshole who they insure caused when he ran into the back of your car in the rain.)

Good luck.
Sorry to be so blunt, but It's the best way.
 

Adjuster

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Learned a lesson? WTF are you talking about?

The semi truck driver should have started to slow down the second his car moved back infront of him in this rain, and the truck should NOT have been in the center lane in rain anyway.

Do not get me started on how rude, arrogant and just plain stupid many of the semi truck drivers are. They drive too fast, tailgate and push other vehicles around.
They ignore the lane restrictions when it suits them.
They blame poor judgement on other cars that "cut infront of them" when they are in lanes other than the far right ones.
Three lane road.
Rain.
Traffic.
Q? What lane should the semi truck be occupying, and how fast should he be going?
A. Far right lane, slower than the rest of traffic, allowing for increased stopping distance due to wet weather and decreased visability.

Problem is, too many truck drivers think they should be able to drive where they want, so this guy was in the middle lane, going to fast, and decided to tailgate and move this "pesky" little car out of the way, and it backfired on him when the car slowed down and he could not stop and ran into it. (Causing a loss that could have injured or killed someone in the process.)
 

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Adjuster has this perfect. i dont know how the hell you can say " i hope you learned your lesson" he did the right thing!! he slowed down due to weather, had a acceptable distance between him and and the semi truck. the semi is in the wrong here no matter what. yea if he just was like OH SHIT and slammed on his brakes he could of jack knifed, but they have a jake brake, and they have gears,. in that amount of room there is no way he couldnt of stopped. especially since he said its just started to rain. even if the semi was not able to stop, dont u think he would of hit the horn on his truck? and those horns are loud, there is no way you wouldnt be able to hear that. the semi truck is in the wrong.

on a side note, your car is done dude.. there looks like there would be sooo much frame damage done to the car, even if u put the money into getting it back on the road, you would not be able to sell it for very much because people would look at see that its had a MAJOR accident on it... it would take a lllot of work and money to make that one perfect again. sorry for the loss dude, but glad your alright.
 

jimi87-t

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I did not mean to imply that it was not the truck drivers fault, but you can not drive around thinking that everyone drives safely. My point was that, a simi WILL speed up going down hill. Yes the driver of the simi was going way too fast in the rain, and will be held at fault. But I do not drive around and not anticipate what can happen. The lesson was to know what to expect (right or wrong) and save this from happening. Its called defensive driving.....

Edit: I agree, most simi drivers can't drive for shit.
 
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b005t3d

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jimi87-t said:
I did not mean to imply that it was not the truck drivers fault, but you can not drive around thinking that everyone drives safely. My point was that, a simi WILL speed up going down hill. Yes the driver of the simi was going way too fast in the rain, and will be held at fault. But I do not drive around and not anticipate what can happen. The lesson was to know what to expect (right or wrong) and save this from happening. Its called defensive driving.....
defensive driving?.... cool, ill have to try that the next time a speeding tractor trailor hits my ass end at 70 mph in the rain. not to mention that fact that i slowed down and turned on my head lights, and moved out of the faster lane of traffic.
 

Adjuster

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Thanks for the PM's but you should let us all know what's up. Somebody might have seen something that could help you out.
Places I'd look.
Next weigh station down the road.
Next truck stop down the road. (They have security cameras everywhere, and this guy is going to stop and check out his front bumper when he pulls over next, so look for some asshat doing just that down the road.)

Good luck man. This sucks.
 

jimi87-t

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Hey, no offince to you b005t3d, but yes, defensive driving. I would not have pulled in front of a speeding simi in the rain and then slowed down.

1. I know most simi drivers suck
2. I know most simis speed up going down hill.

You have every right to be mad at him, and prosicute him. Like I said before sorry for the out come. And no I don't think you were at fault, but anticipation could have saved your ass.

Sorry if you misinterpret what I'm trying to say.
 

b005t3d

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jimi87-t said:
Hey, no offince to you b005t3d, but yes, defensive driving. I would not have pulled in front of a speeding simi in the rain and then slowed down.

1. I know most simi drivers suck
2. I know most simis speed up going down hill.

You have every right to be mad at him, and prosicute him. Like I said before sorry for the out come. And no I don't think you were at fault, but anticipation could have saved your ass.

Sorry if you misinterpret what I'm trying to say.
its all good bro, im just a little distrot from the days events. sorry for lashing back
 

Kai

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Ooops - i didnt look at all the pictures of the car - yeah, its had it mate. I suggest you find a donor shell and transfer over your stuff - at least that way you can go from a bare shell upwards...

Here's what i'd do:

1) Buy crap supra with a decent shell (one with a blown engine/box etc)
2) strip yours for all the parts that are intact (engine/box/diffs/driveshafts etc)
3) Strip the crap supra down to a shell
4) Repaint the donor shell
5) install your stuff

Done that with a few cars in my time - always worked out nice in the end :)