V mounting?

OneJoeZee

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mk3 bamf;925352 said:
v-mounting is good for sorter IC piping and the IC and RAD get equal air flow . so how is it not a good idea?

Because the Supra does not have space for it.

RX-7s, 240s, and other cars with room can get away with it because they can do it without having to run a significantly smaller intercooler or a ton of cutting.


Look how much room there is in an RX-7 engine bay
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And then a Supra
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Where are you going to put IC and radiator in a Vmount without serious cutting and downsizing your IC?

Run a larger radiator and intercooler instead and you won't have a problem. Your Supra doesn't have a problem with overheating does it?
 

Poodles

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V (or in the insane world with all three coolers, Z mounting), is more useful in cars that not only have the room...but don't have the airflow like our cars do.

Most of the V mount cars I've seen are the ones that get their air from under the front bumper and then it's channeled up to the radiator/IC. In a setup like that with a backwards vent on the hood, a V mount works great.

On our cars, not needed as there is a pretty good gap between the IC and radiator...
 

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OneJoeZee;925427 said:
Because the Supra does not have space for it.

RX-7s, 240s, and other cars with room can get away with it because they can do it without having to run a significantly smaller intercooler or a ton of cutting.


Look how much room there is in an RX-7 engine bay
0205tur_04z+mazda_rx7_fd3s+engine_bay.jpg




And then a Supra
IMAG0012.JPG



Where are you going to put IC and radiator in a Vmount without serious cutting and downsizing your IC?

Run a larger radiator and intercooler instead and you won't have a problem. Your Supra doesn't have a problem with overheating does it?

No my supra doesn't have a over heating problem. I'm doing a 1J swap and was thinking of doing the v-mount at the same time. Some cutting and some fab isn't that hard.
 

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That 1JZ car looks retarded. looks like he cut the whole rad support out. WTF.

This is pointless, We were blessed to have a HUGE space to put an intercooler in the front of the car, not many STOCK cars have a front mount. Don't waste your time.
 

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mk3 bamf;925659 said:
No my supra doesn't have a over heating problem. I'm doing a 1J swap and was thinking of doing the v-mount at the same time. Some cutting and some fab isn't that hard.

Do you have data that shows that cut up V mount Supra actually saw any change in anything?

The JZ piping isn't even long to begin with and the car doesn't have a cooling problem. What is it you're trying to gain?


If you want to do it to be different, just say so. It's your money.
 

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OneJoeZee;925705 said:
Do you have data that shows that cut up V mount Supra actually saw any change in anything?

The JZ piping isn't even long to begin with and the car doesn't have a cooling problem. What is it you're trying to gain?


If you want to do it to be different, just say so. It's your money.

Yes I would like do be different but not if it's not going to improve air flow for both the RAD and the IC, it looks more efficient.
 

OneJoeZee

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More efficient how?

The intercooler already gets tons of airflow where it is in the front. The cooling system is fine as well.

Again, it's your money.
 

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I'll do this then.

What are the good things and bad things about v-mounting?

What are the good things and bad things about fount mounting?

I'm just trying to get some information, I'm not trying to be irritating.
 

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haha ian, have to love those dam kid's! lol


mk3 bamf;925721 said:
I'll do this then.

What are the good things and bad things about v-mounting?

What are the good things and bad things about fount mounting?

I'm just trying to get some information, I'm not trying to be irritating.



1: correctly done you get a compact high effecency cooler,

the idea though is correctly done on high dollar super cars and race cars,
the idea is to tunnle the incoming air to focus the air mas across the incooler/ radiator or both.

the bad thing, unless it's done well, it isn't worth doing


2: a front mount will simulate this air tunnle the best, and the air is still rather cool after crossing the intercooler rather then the rad.

it protects the radiator from large FOB's

if you wish to make a fmic set up better switch to a forward facing intake, and upgade the incooler to a decent intercooler, purchase good 4ply couplers & t-bolts. replace all the hard pipes, and build a skirt for the intercooler so it would force directed air to the radiator. this was at low speeds the engine fan will pull air pass the incooler and help , even more on cooler days/nights.
 

NashMan

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i hvae sean it done befor at the last supra meet i was at ti was jdm car as well with 2j in it

was it done well yes was it big improvment yes the piping alone was really short

con's about hood pins only rad support will have to be cut will need propper bump and hood and air dame for the cooling stuff

once done it will be better then any front mont
 

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shorter piping is the mian reson for doing it that way can it cool just as good yes but you will have to change some things in order for it to work the way it's suppost to like an air dame then a vented hood ect

is it worth it that is up to the person building it


here is the plus and cons

plus

shorter piping
less damge done to ic (mostly track use like chunks of rubber miss car parts or what ever is on the track at the time but mostly rubber)
if done proper you will have alot more down froce on the front end
diffent

cons

gonna cost you
gonna have to chop car apart
hood pins only


these are ture facts

OneJoeZee;925750 said:
Better than any front mount? proof?