born2drv said:
The manufacturers minimum recommended volume never gives the best sound quality or low freq extension. We were talking about sounding good, not raw spl. If you want spl you could mount one in your headrest.
Toyota factory subwoofer?
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The manufacturers minimum recommended volume never gives the best sound quality or low freq extension. We were talking about sounding good, not raw spl. If you want spl you could mount one in your headrest.
nG go ahead it won't happen.... you won't even hit 130 with 4 6.5's @ 50Hz. ....and no need to be rude and call names. i'm just discussing my point of view, i was never rude to anyone..... and if u don't like it u can suck my left nut
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Big Aaron, If you have a better install in a mk3 supra that hits low and hard and still allowed for a targa install and for the seats to fold down, I'm all ears. Headrests don't count, and spare tire well is a given. I already plan to do that.
The spare tire well, with the 12" sub. Yes beautiful. 12" subs are the way to go for good low end frequency response. Anyhow end of discussion for me, nice talking with you guys, I've said my peace.
Show me $1000 and I'll give you my address to mail the check by 6 PM eastern today. I had a single Xcite 8" doing a 141 on a Termlab sensor with 150 watts on it. I competed with it 2 years ago and I still have the box for it.
SPL is created by generating air pressure (hence Sound Pressure Level). There are a few ways to achieve SPL, one being displacement, another being acoustic utilization. Greater displacement has a greater likelyhood to generate greater SPL, though not always the case. You can take all the classes you want on acoustics and not realize how real world applications work. If you take the same sub with the same amp and do a sealed box vs ported box you can see an SPL difference, thats a perfect example of acoustic utilization. It's using the enclosure to do the work (which is what competition SPL systems are).
Now, you wanna talk frequency reponse? Average idiot example: Bose Wave Radio. Single 3" speaker and somehow plays 40 hz just fine. How does it do it? Transmission line. You can take a speaker with a 70 hz fs and make it play 35 hz clean as can be and with some volume. That is the nature of the enclosure, to play octaves below fs. What happens when you put that same driver in a sealed enclosure? It won't play below 60 hz in a reasonably sized enclosure.
Moral of the story, in SPL, SQ, and overall frequency response are somewhat driver dependant, but mostly enclosure dependant. If you're enclosure doesn't provide an environment for the speaker to react how it wants to, you won't get the appropriate sound.
Now, where's my $1000?
SPL is created by generating air pressure (hence Sound Pressure Level). There are a few ways to achieve SPL, one being displacement, another being acoustic utilization. Greater displacement has a greater likelyhood to generate greater SPL, though not always the case. You can take all the classes you want on acoustics and not realize how real world applications work. If you take the same sub with the same amp and do a sealed box vs ported box you can see an SPL difference, thats a perfect example of acoustic utilization. It's using the enclosure to do the work (which is what competition SPL systems are).
Now, you wanna talk frequency reponse? Average idiot example: Bose Wave Radio. Single 3" speaker and somehow plays 40 hz just fine. How does it do it? Transmission line. You can take a speaker with a 70 hz fs and make it play 35 hz clean as can be and with some volume. That is the nature of the enclosure, to play octaves below fs. What happens when you put that same driver in a sealed enclosure? It won't play below 60 hz in a reasonably sized enclosure.
Moral of the story, in SPL, SQ, and overall frequency response are somewhat driver dependant, but mostly enclosure dependant. If you're enclosure doesn't provide an environment for the speaker to react how it wants to, you won't get the appropriate sound.
Now, where's my $1000?
ibanender - I think you're full of shit, especially seeing as how you're a one-post wonder, I wonder who you really are? Plus if you read what I said, I said no ****6-1/2" ***** subwoofer setup would break 140SPL @ ****50Hz*****
Please learn how to read. Thank you for coming out though.
Please learn how to read. Thank you for coming out though.
Iban is far from full of shit.
Put that $1000 up in escro and I will gladly earn it by proving you incorrect. What sensor/mic would you like the test to be done on?
Put that $1000 up in escro and I will gladly earn it by proving you incorrect. What sensor/mic would you like the test to be done on?
daledoe said:I'm going to just put these in the back
With a JL e1200 amp
Hey daledoe,
nice looking amp there. my dad actually found a e1200 in an empty lot while he was working and gave it to me during the past summer. it had some scratchs on it. i just took it into the local JL dealer on Saturday to see if it worked and get some missing screws before I bought cables to hook it up to my old JBL 10" DVC in my tC. Unfortunately, they told me that they don't carry the Ground and battery remote screws, and I'll have to try a hardware store.
cool, thanks. i'll pick the amp up after work and head over to napa. The audio place has a Stinger cable set with capacitor and several distributors for $160 ($100 off regular price). It will be nice to install that this weekend and have bass.
born2drv said:
I am who I post as on every other forum. Post count doesn't increase your e-penis like you think. You want me to do it with a 6.5? Show me $1000 and I'll buy the 6.5 to do it. Until then, YOU are full of shit. You don't have the balls to put up $1000 (and probably not the $1000 to put up). So, put up or shut up.
You gonna argue your frequency response BS too, or are you admitting defeat since you didn't have defense for that?
I'll give you guys $1000 to just let it go already...
Anyone who knows anything about speakers and acoustics knows that the enclosure design has a lot to do with the frequency responce of the speaker system and the size of the driver is not the main thing that determines frequency response OR spl. Ignorant people think the f3 is the lowest frequency the driver can play but it is just the -3db point and with enough power and the right enclosure you can play well below that.
Anyone who knows anything about speakers and acoustics knows that the enclosure design has a lot to do with the frequency responce of the speaker system and the size of the driver is not the main thing that determines frequency response OR spl. Ignorant people think the f3 is the lowest frequency the driver can play but it is just the -3db point and with enough power and the right enclosure you can play well below that.