Too much torque?

googooflexy

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GrimJack;969727 said:
Damn... I guess I'd better look at mine! What were you doing?

Tell him to stop smoking the crack, it's just not going to happen. If it were, we'd have long since found out about it, there are plenty of people that are above 500tq at the wheels.

Better yet, bring him to a meet and one of us will give him a ride around the block. After putting some plastic on the passenger seat so we don't have to clean the piss stains again.

lmao...awesome. yeah, that's what i keep tryin to tell him. it will certainly help to have had some outside opinions(facts).
yeah...he's definitely seeing this thread later lol.
 

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googooflexy;969425 said:
Nah, it's an 80s engine. It came out of either an 89 camaro or a late 80s Corvette. I was fairly sure that the supra was just as stiff, if not stiffer, than an 80s unibody camaro.
I've also tried telling him this...but he's what I like to call "Perma-Ignorant"

Is that an 80's engine in the build thread? It doesn't seem so. The orange paint stopped in the 70's I thought. The LT-1 was pretty hot with compression. Only a couple of years of production I think.
 

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Nick M;969738 said:
Is that an 80's engine in the build thread? It doesn't seem so. The orange paint stopped in the 70's I thought. The LT-1 was pretty hot with compression. Only a couple of years of production I think.

i guess its an 80s engine...now that i think about it, i dunno. the guy i bought it from isnt even the one who got it new. he said the guy HE got it from took it from an 80s vette...but thats debatable.

honestly, all i know about this engine is that it has 8 clinders and roughly 380 horsepower with a good carb.

...SUPPOSEDLY
 

KicknAsphlt

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googooflexy;969753 said:
i guess its an 80s engine...now that i think about it, i dunno. the guy i bought it from isnt even the one who got it new. he said the guy HE got it from took it from an 80s vette...but thats debatable.

honestly, all i know about this engine is that it has 8 clinders and roughly 380 horsepower with a good carb.

...SUPPOSEDLY

Look up the casting number. That should tell you what generation it came from.
 

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A guy did the 350 swap on a 87 supra N/A out here some time ago. It actualy ended up being slower than a turbo with the handling of a mustang. He gave up, sold it, and moved on to one of his other swap projects he never finishes. It had ZERO problems with the frame and he drove it hard. I'm sure if you do it right it could be a great car for the dragstrip.
 

Poodles

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Please just slap the shit out of your friend...

Our cars weigh more than 3rd gen F-bodies for a reason, and it's not JUST the creature comforts.

My bro had an '86 T/A with a 350 swap (for the stock 305, but kept the tuned port) and the car was BARELY faster than my car was stock. His rattled like a tin can and felt sloppy as fuck...

There is a reason subframe connectors are almost manditory on the f-bodies/mustangs, hell the mustang converts came with em stock...
 

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KicknAsphlt;969829 said:
Look up the casting number. That should tell you what generation it came from.

already tried...i couldnt find a website that made sense...i got it narrowed down to a 78 camaro I THINK...

which is not a vette btw. i may slap the hell out of the guy who told me it was.

IJ.;970044 said:
Your Bud's mullet needs a trim ;)
lol, ill tell him that. he'll get a kick out of it haha.

upgradedsupra;970069 said:
Ask him if his car puts out more than 700 rear WHEEL torque ;)

Duane
lol, he doesn't...he has a shitty old truck (in the bakground of my avatar).
he's barely got 250. gobs of torque tho...



EDIT:

so...i've shown him this thread.

haha. he quickly retracted all of his statements with:
"well i dunno supras like you guys do"
"i was drunk when i said that"
"i was kidding"
"i didnt know it weighed that much"
"it's not entirely a ricer"

lmao
success.

Thanks guys!
 
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toyo4life

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Nothing is more flexible than an third gen f-body convertible. Not even my 98 ls1 camaro felt as stiff as the supra, and it had sub frame connectors.
 

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Keros

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Torque?

350ci SB?

7M-GTE?

Let's put this all together. A small block chevy has an 3.48" (88mm) stroke. A 7M-GTE has 3.58" (91mm) of stroke. Talking pure torque numbers, if burning the same ammount of fuel at the same efficiency, the 7M will produce atleast equivalent, if not more torque than the SBC 350... the 7M has a larger crank "throw", thus more mechanical advantage on the crankshaft.

Torque is the only reason I'd keep a 7M in anything.
 

miekedmr

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Keros;972114 said:
Torque?

350ci SB?

7M-GTE?

Let's put this all together. A small block chevy has an 3.48" (88mm) stroke. A 7M-GTE has 3.58" (91mm) of stroke. Talking pure torque numbers, if burning the same ammount of fuel at the same efficiency, the 7M will produce atleast equivalent, if not more torque than the SBC 350... the 7M has a larger crank "throw", thus more mechanical advantage on the crankshaft.

Torque is the only reason I'd keep a 7M in anything.

When people talk about a motor being torquey, they generally mean it makes a lot of torque at low rpm. That has everything to do with displacement, head and intake design, and very little to do with how far each piston moves up and down.
 

TurboStreetCar

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Keros;972114 said:
Torque?

350ci SB?

7M-GTE?

Let's put this all together. A small block chevy has an 3.48" (88mm) stroke. A 7M-GTE has 3.58" (91mm) of stroke. Talking pure torque numbers, if burning the same ammount of fuel at the same efficiency, the 7M will produce atleast equivalent, if not more torque than the SBC 350... the 7M has a larger crank "throw", thus more mechanical advantage on the crankshaft.

Torque is the only reason I'd keep a 7M in anything.

Just dont forget about the 2 extra cylinders pushing at the same time. one more push per rotation can help in the torque department.

Im not defending the v8 or anything, 7m FTW.
 

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Keros;972114 said:
Torque?

350ci SB?

7M-GTE?

Let's put this all together. A small block chevy has an 3.48" (88mm) stroke. A 7M-GTE has 3.58" (91mm) of stroke. Talking pure torque numbers, if burning the same ammount of fuel at the same efficiency, the 7M will produce atleast equivalent, if not more torque than the SBC 350... the 7M has a larger crank "throw", thus more mechanical advantage on the crankshaft.

Torque is the only reason I'd keep a 7M in anything.

Do you smoke ganja or something? Or whatever it is called? Torque is a function of displacement. And yes, bore and stroke affect it, as well as cam timing and manifold design. But displacement is the main ingridient. A 7M naturally aspirated is good for 185Lb/ft, and the 2JZ is good for 220, if I remember right.

Compared to the 340 lb/ft a second gen(fuel injected) 350 L98 generates.