Oh man, I saw that and didn't say anything...
It better be ONLY for mock-up or I'll drive all the way up there to slap you myself...
It better be ONLY for mock-up or I'll drive all the way up there to slap you myself...
Tire Shredder's MK2 7MGE budget NA screamer build thread
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Big Wang Bandit;1096306 said:
Guys. It's on there just for start up and to be run for 20 min. Then the oil in changed and the filter is switched to a Wix. After the wix comes AMS Oil filters and oil only. Steve has done the research and knows what he is doing. It's all good.
Thomas: Steve feels the metal headgasket just isn't required on his build. We are also using the stock headbolts.
Poodles: The cover is there to try and keep fluids out but even the stock piece has large gaps which fluid is easily able to get past. I know this because this happened to me Friday night with a coolant line bursting. The main function I see for this cover is to hold the spark plug boots in place.
I will have many pics of the progress up in a few min. However I can say...it's in.
lol don't worry about the oil filter guys... I know what I'm doing. in my defense, it's actually a tough guard which has a decent anti-drainback valve in it. there's no way the cardboard end cap will fail within 20 minutes.
wix filters and castrol for the rest of the summer after the flush, then amsoil goodness from there on out.
Jamie answered the rest of the questions.
oh, and black cat/amichie...that's a great time on the timing cover. I might just do that when dyno time rolls around!
woooooo!!! it's in! looks fantastic! and everything is done to the best of my abilities. thanks to all my friends for the hard work they put in! and mark for stopping by to drop the motor in (the fun part)
fuel system is ready, header needs to be bolted on and powersteering res needs to be mounted. There's a chance it could run tomorrow, but that's a lofty goal. see what happens!
Steve
wix filters and castrol for the rest of the summer after the flush, then amsoil goodness from there on out.
Jamie answered the rest of the questions.
oh, and black cat/amichie...that's a great time on the timing cover. I might just do that when dyno time rolls around!
woooooo!!! it's in! looks fantastic! and everything is done to the best of my abilities. thanks to all my friends for the hard work they put in! and mark for stopping by to drop the motor in (the fun part)
fuel system is ready, header needs to be bolted on and powersteering res needs to be mounted. There's a chance it could run tomorrow, but that's a lofty goal. see what happens!
Steve
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CryoSlash;1096718 said:
yes. do some research fool!
stock headgasket is QUITE good and even with moderate boost levels is just fine. most of the construction of the composite gasket is now metal after all of the revisions....but without the surface requirements. I do have a pretty good RA value head, that could handle a MHG.
NA engines have significantly LESS cylinder pressure than turbo engines
stock bolts are NOT torque to yield bolts despite what was said long ago. 72 ft/lbs gives a safety margin before the bolts reach plastic deformation, but with the increased clamping force that is required.
many people have done this, even on turbo motors, without issues.
all I can tell you is that I sleep easy at night knowing how I installed the headgasket.
I just saved myself 300 bucks.
WOW!! thats just how I would have made my motor look.I'm not into the chrome valve covers but it complaments the rest of the motor/engine bay.Like I said since you started this project I cant wait to see it run in the car.please when you get it on the orad make a lil video from the outside so I could see that super clean MKII done with the right kind of build like you said befor.KEEP US UPDATED!!
NICE JOB! I love the way it looks! Valve covers and plenum/intake look great! I like the blue wires to, what brand? pricey?
can't wait to see (and hear ) more!
can't wait to see (and hear
) more!
thanks! not to worry, plenty of video and more pictures when it's on the road!
the wires are made by NGK. I believe the only colour you can get is blue from them. somewhere around $60...mine came with the motor, just cleaned them!
the wires are made by NGK. I believe the only colour you can get is blue from them. somewhere around $60...mine came with the motor, just cleaned them!
You're not listening.
The third valve cover gasket (that metal thing you put in there) when it's NEW seals the oil galley plugs. Without the rubber there to seal, it WILL leak out into the spark plug wells and you WILL get misfires from it.
It also will seal correctly when it's in good condition, it's a gasket so it shouldn't be reused.
Trying to stop some irritating headaches for you guys, but what do I know...
The third valve cover gasket (that metal thing you put in there) when it's NEW seals the oil galley plugs. Without the rubber there to seal, it WILL leak out into the spark plug wells and you WILL get misfires from it.
It also will seal correctly when it's in good condition, it's a gasket so it shouldn't be reused.
Trying to stop some irritating headaches for you guys, but what do I know...
gtsfirefighter
SM Expert on White trash
Looks awesome, and I agree that you're totally fine w/ composite HG. I ran mine w/ no problems in my 12psi engine.
Poodles;1097006 said:
We get it...calm down. The cam covers should not leak. We have cap heads screws and new seals. If they leak, that problem should be addressed. We should not have to rely on the valley cover to keep oil out. My car has been running for a few years and does not leak oil into the spark plug valley despite the poor seal of the stock cover. This is due to new cam cover seals and them being tightened properly.
I am not concerned.
Tire Shredder;1096733 said:
You don't have to tell me about that steve, i ran the stock gasket for 2 years at 12 psi w/o problems.
But my point is, why the hell didn't you just replace them with new ones?
It's not like they are expensive, and the extra piece of mind of even torque spread across is just gravy.
Bolts stretch a lot, and re using a stock head bolt is a no no for me.
It's NOT the cam covers!
Seriously you're not listening, I've been there, done then, had the NIGHTMARE of trying to get all the oil out of the plug wells.
What you're tightening in this pic if the oil galley plug. The metal piece you put in there instead of the stock piece does NOT have anything to seal it properly. You either need to use sealant, an o-ring, or a gasket as I've seen other people use.
Seriously you're not listening, I've been there, done then, had the NIGHTMARE of trying to get all the oil out of the plug wells.
What you're tightening in this pic if the oil galley plug. The metal piece you put in there instead of the stock piece does NOT have anything to seal it properly. You either need to use sealant, an o-ring, or a gasket as I've seen other people use.
Smear Silicone, Loctite or O Rings. Pic your own dressing.
Tire Shredder. Nice to see my "old" headgasket being put to good use. (I sold it to RSA and RSA sold it to you)
Tire Shredder. Nice to see my "old" headgasket being put to good use. (I sold it to RSA and RSA sold it to you)
Sawbladz;1097472 said:
Poodles,
what he said, it has new o-rings. relax man, I appreciate your input. there's no reason to get upset.
Zumtizzle;1097475 said:Smear Silicone, Loctite or O Rings. Pic your own dressing.
Tire Shredder. Nice to see my "old" headgasket being put to good use. (I sold it to RSA and RSA sold it to you)
haha cool man! it was still in good shape when I got ahold of it.
thomas, I could have, but didn't.
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