Thrust Washer for R154

[Element256]

Would anyone like a new more durable washer ?
I've talked with a few people and it seems that the 1st gear washer is a weak material and could be made more solid by perhaps a steel\hardened metal one.

Would there be any interest if I got a friend to perhaps custom make some new ones in a different material, or is there a company that's already doing that ?

 

[speed]

been discussed a billion and two times. If it could be done, it would have been already

 

[Element256]

My bad...Plz lock this thread or delete. Shoulda used search but forgot it was there as I'm from SF.

I'll just do one myself

 

[Poodles]

discussed, but nobody has stepped forward to actually MAKE it for the community...

 

[Element256]

Okay well I'll go pickup one from Toyota and see if I can get working on something. Is this thing really $30 ? OEM FTL

Also I haven't read all the rules yet so I don't want to step on any toes and I'm not going to be selling anything major like this in bulk till I'm sure it works and have some local SM members test it with me, maybe including Aaron.

Sounds like it'd be worth some of my time to do this though since I have some good contacts to possibly get it done, not only for myself but my new bretheren

 

[Justin727]

yes 30.00 give or take a few dollars. If I had my tranny out again and apart I would deff. help test it and put it thru hell!

 

[Element256]

WoW after searching it looks like this can of worms is opened up yearly.
I'm just in time to beat the dead horse some more

Looks to me that the only thing that would "really" help would be better groove patterns (Spiral) in the washer that would pull in more lubricant to the center with ease.

I guess I'll still try and get something done on my own with another material and groove pattern and see how it turns out before whoring this out any further.

Noob OUT !

If anyone wants to donate a washer to the cause (even a broken one might work just to get the size\specs of it and have a dup made) feel free to PM me otherwise I'll pick one up from Toyota next week.

 

[Justin727]

lol I would donate my broken one but its in 3 pieces and isnt the right size! if I still worked at yota i'd throw one your way free of charge!

 

[crosupra]

does somebody knows a part number for that thrust washer?

how hard is it to change it?

 

[Justin727]

you need a Press to get the gears apart. Aside from that its not hard to change at all

 

[upgradedsupra]

Okay well I'll go pickup one from Toyota and see if I can get working on something. Is this thing really $30 ? OEM FTL

Also I haven't read all the rules yet so I don't want to step on any toes and I'm not going to be selling anything major like this in bulk till I'm sure it works and have some local SM members test it with me, maybe including Aaron.

Sounds like it'd be worth some of my time to do this though since I have some good contacts to possibly get it done, not only for myself but my new bretheren

You just need to get a GB approved if you are planning on selling these. I have not personally had any problems with mine (I drag race my car quite a bit.) but not to say it isn't a problem. Let us know what the outcome is.

Duane

 

[Element256]

^^^Shouldn't your sig say 842.98 ??

 

[bowsercake]

^^^Shouldn't you go reread the other thread?

 

[upgradedsupra]

^^^Shouldn't your sig say 842.98 ??

No mine will read much higher than that when I use Nitrous and a clutch that holds.
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You are thinking of Nate's car. (KWNATE)He ran 735 RWHP on Boost and 842 on nitrous / 100 shot

Mine (UPGRADEDSUPRA) is 814.62 on BOOST ONLY and nitrous will be...well we will see what happens :biglaugh:

Duane

 

[Element256]

There is .02 HP FREE for everyone! Get it now as Nate has it! EX: 242.98 and he now has 243

I know its a joke but thought Nate hit 842.98 on the juice.
Sorry just thought you made a typo.

 

[Syris]

I was thinking about this and was wondering if anyone has tried REM treating it or in other words micropolishing.

 

[Element256]

I think by just using the OEM material and then regrooving it to allow more lubrication to pull to the center would suffice and fix as much of the problem as is possible currently.

 

[IJ.]

It's sintered metal so WON'T handle impact loads without shattering....

 

[Syris]

Im going to assume your talking to element, but getting that thrust washer micropolished would help with those impacts tremendously

 

[IJ.]

Syris: Ummm they're NOT failing from lubrication issues.

Even micropolished they're still have an open grain structure with little to no core strength seeing that it's a sintered part.

If the Trans was rebuilt paying close attention to end float on all the gears the stock part should be fine but in 15+ year old trannys you have enough room for the helical gears to walk back and forth add some hp/sticky rubber/hard launches and you'll break the thrust and I believe this is when the blueing of the broken part happens giving the impression it's lube related.