spec multidisk clutch
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let's just say if you need to use an RPS 3200lb PP, then you need to step up to a multiplate...
Seen far too many issues with heavy PP's to ever run a nasty one on my car (my Action clutch has a stiffer one, but nothing like the RPS engine killer...)
You're right, clutches are rated in torque...but not all are...
Seen far too many issues with heavy PP's to ever run a nasty one on my car (my Action clutch has a stiffer one, but nothing like the RPS engine killer...)
You're right, clutches are rated in torque...but not all are...
flubyux2 said:
There is a guy on SM running a 4200lb custom pp. Im not sure he wants everyone to know what he's got, but he'll chime in if he wants. Its connected with an unsprung sintered iron disk. He told me he's been running the clutch for a year with no master cylinder or throw out bearing failures. He also stated that its good for over 1000 rwtq! Not my kind of clutch, but it can be done!
hmm...
im anti-solid hub for a daily driver... im not a big fan of the tranny rattle that it can create.
i want to feel that pedal... ive stepped on some HARD ass clutches. my DSM had quite a stiff clutch, almost as stiff as my friends RPS 6puck in his MKIV. but that wasnt nearly as stiff as the clutch my friend has in his LS1-swapped FD. he had to run a wilwood master cyl because the stock master blows out on these clutches. its probably easily over 200lb at the pedal. he puts down about 400rwhp on motor and over 500rwhp w/ the spray.
im anti-solid hub for a daily driver... im not a big fan of the tranny rattle that it can create.
i want to feel that pedal... ive stepped on some HARD ass clutches. my DSM had quite a stiff clutch, almost as stiff as my friends RPS 6puck in his MKIV. but that wasnt nearly as stiff as the clutch my friend has in his LS1-swapped FD. he had to run a wilwood master cyl because the stock master blows out on these clutches. its probably easily over 200lb at the pedal. he puts down about 400rwhp on motor and over 500rwhp w/ the spray.
I've seen too many engines lost from heavy PP's to run one...
not to mention the stacked design of the RPS likes to slip with hard use...
did this LS1 powered RX-7 happen to go to TX2K7? there was one there that put a hurting on quite a few MKIV's...
not to mention the stacked design of the RPS likes to slip with hard use...
did this LS1 powered RX-7 happen to go to TX2K7? there was one there that put a hurting on quite a few MKIV's...
idk... i doubt it. he lives and goes to school in tallahassee.
its a mean ass car, ive done a little work on it... mostly wiring since its not his strong point. but, this car spins from almost any speed with the spray. it HAS to run on the DR's to have any hope of going fast.
was it this car you saw?
its a mean ass car, ive done a little work on it... mostly wiring since its not his strong point. but, this car spins from almost any speed with the spray. it HAS to run on the DR's to have any hope of going fast.
was it this car you saw?
nope, this one was black IIRC...
it was a fucking monster though, and pissed off quite a few people...
from what I can remember it had cam, heads, headers, and a few other things...
it was a fucking monster though, and pissed off quite a few people...
from what I can remember it had cam, heads, headers, and a few other things...
ah... my friend's car is mostly stock except the cam. it has stock heads from a different motor and something like a magic stick 3. its got Sandersen long tubes, X-pipe, bullets and dumps... then the single stage.
a black car eh... if it was mint, and driven by a soft-spoken black kid named DJ, thats one of our friends from Tally as well. hes a money racer from new york. hes got a little more than the Red FD. DJ's car has an MS4, kooks long tubes, bullets and dumps i think. its also got some other supporting mods and a single stage. its a few steps ahead of the Red FD.
last time i saw the black FD, it was still being put together so i couldnt tell what clutch was in it...
but i wonder how these guys get away with such harsh clutches and the thrust bearings still survive... maybe we just have dainty thrust bearings?
a black car eh... if it was mint, and driven by a soft-spoken black kid named DJ, thats one of our friends from Tally as well. hes a money racer from new york. hes got a little more than the Red FD. DJ's car has an MS4, kooks long tubes, bullets and dumps i think. its also got some other supporting mods and a single stage. its a few steps ahead of the Red FD.
last time i saw the black FD, it was still being put together so i couldnt tell what clutch was in it...
but i wonder how these guys get away with such harsh clutches and the thrust bearings still survive... maybe we just have dainty thrust bearings?
I'm sure there is a few pics of it in the TX2K7 threads around, it was pretty mean...
I'm unsure of the LS1 as they are easily one of the best engines recently made, but if the thrust bearings in the motor were actually force fed oil like the rest of the bearings it would probably help...
I'm unsure of the LS1 as they are easily one of the best engines recently made, but if the thrust bearings in the motor were actually force fed oil like the rest of the bearings it would probably help...
gilberjj said:
I have not gotten the exact specs on the Multi disk clutch that I've been working on with them but it will feel like stock AND! will be a bolt in kit. (as I am told) Center iron is a race clutch and is NOT meant for a DD car. (Spec also said this but I think it is obvious)
Duane
PS: AGAIN, as soon as I get it and do some testing, I will let everyone know. I will post a thread for some info about it as well.
dbsupra90 said:
agreed.
what we need is a cost-effective multi-plate option....then again, why blow all that $$ on the R154 just to blow it up?
drjonez said:
It will be cost effective and less than most multi disks out there and the R154? (No problems here yet :sarcasm: )
Duane
lol. TKO's arent rated any higher than an R154... isnt that just a 3550 or something? i mean, i know people who run 10's on stock mustang V8 T5's but tahts in a car that weighs 1000lbs less than ours. just cuz itll survive in a fox-body doesnt mean we can do the same thing.
and, having a clutch that will hold the torque will just make fixing the driveline that much easier.
instead of having to replace a clutch AND a tranny, you can just do the tranny... especially since trannies cost Less than even most Single-disc clutches that would be rated to hold the minimum amount of torque required to kill the R154.
even now... spending $500 for a clutch that will hold enough power to kill a $400 tranny, were at that point Jonezy
and, having a clutch that will hold the torque will just make fixing the driveline that much easier.
instead of having to replace a clutch AND a tranny, you can just do the tranny... especially since trannies cost Less than even most Single-disc clutches that would be rated to hold the minimum amount of torque required to kill the R154.
even now... spending $500 for a clutch that will hold enough power to kill a $400 tranny, were at that point Jonezy
my point is more that it would be nice to not have to keep replacing things....at least that's my goal.
Well then
triple CF Tilton and call it a day.
Spec. I will take them over RPShitty any day of the EON. But then I have had no issue with SPEC. RP$ on the other hand.........
triple CF Tilton and call it a day.
Spec. I will take them over RPShitty any day of the EON. But then I have had no issue with SPEC. RP$ on the other hand.........
Where did you get that info?flubyux2 said:lol. TKO's arent rated any higher than an R154... isnt that just a 3550 or something? i mean, i know people who run 10's on stock mustang V8 T5's but tahts in a car that weighs 1000lbs less than ours. just cuz itll survive in a fox-body doesnt mean we can do the same thing.
and, having a clutch that will hold the torque will just make fixing the driveline that much easier.
instead of having to replace a clutch AND a tranny, you can just do the tranny... especially since trannies cost Less than even most Single-disc clutches that would be rated to hold the minimum amount of torque required to kill the R154.
even now... spending $500 for a clutch that will hold enough power to kill a $400 tranny, were at that point Jonezy
TKO shares the length and mounting points with a 3550 (think 3550 on steroids) and MUCH stronger than a 154 in every way.
TKO 500 = 500lb/ft torque
TKO 600 = 600lb/ft torque
On top of the rated specs, Tremic under rates thier trannies quite a bit.
TKO 600 = 600lb/ft torque
On top of the rated specs, Tremic under rates thier trannies quite a bit.