Slow's build: Wheelie Bar Equipped

[SupaMan]

I dunno alot about welding so excuse me for this question.

Wouldnt you have to fully weld the first three runners to the collector before you put the last three in it? or how would you fully weld them?

Now that ive thought about that question it seems that either way your in the same position i have in my mind because even if you weld the first three before the last three then the last three are still in a tight spot on the insides of the pipes.

Sorry if i made no sense at all.

 

[fstoy]

I dunno alot about welding so excuse me for this question.

Wouldnt you have to fully weld the first three runners to the collector before you put the last three in it? or how would you fully weld them?

Now that ive thought about that question it seems that either way your in the same position i have in my mind because even if you weld the first three before the last three then the last three are still in a tight spot on the insides of the pipes.

Sorry if i made no sense at all.

Thats why i would not even try building my own header. If i did one, i would end up with a nice looking header that still needs half the welding done.

 

[Slow66]

What you do is tack each runner together, and then once all the runners are done, you break the tacks on the flange, and then fully weld all the runners. Then you set them back into the flange and then fully weld the runners to the flange.

 

[Slow66]

You need to move down to TX. We could get a larger shop together, i have a auto lift, tools, ect. and you have the skills.
Winters here are mild, Think about it!

Don't tease.....lol. I don't see myself in CT for too much longer for sure. Maybe 2 years max....

 

[88YotaTurbo]

Don't tease.....lol. I don't see myself in CT for too much longer for sure. Maybe 2 years max....

Word I have to move to a FREE Republican state

 

[thechori]

You need to move down to TX. We could get a larger shop together, i have a auto lift, tools, ect. and you have the skills.
Winters here are mild, Think about it!

you guys could sponsor my 7M powered drift car! haha w0000t

where is your shop located fstoy? you need some workers? :naughty:

 

[Ds650rida]

i just read through the whole thread.

Sick shit, what kinda et's are you shooting for?

 

[Slow66]

i just read through the whole thread.

Sick shit, what kinda et's are you shooting for?

Goal is 7.90s.

Its going to take a looooooooong time to get there (lots of suspension tuning, getting used to the car, and broken parts) But thats where i want it to be eventually. The turbo is capable of it, just gotta make it all work as one....

 

[jt2ma71]

What you do is tack each runner together, and then once all the runners are done, you break the tacks on the flange, and then fully weld all the runners. Then you set them back into the flange and then fully weld the runners to the flange.

Looking good!!

More tips: Looks like the welds/tacks are still too hot. You want none to very little sugaring on the inside. Keep the tungsten really close to the material and you don't need a welding rod to just do the tacks as long as there are no gaps in the joints have fun!!

 

[SupaMan]

hats off to you guys for being able to build stuff like that!

it looks awesome tho slow i cant wait to see this beast done!

 

[Tun_x]

Ask and ye shall recieve....

Runner #2

Runner #3

Will do #4 tomorrow or tuesday....

I got a chubbie

 

[Slow66]

Looking good!!

More tips: Looks like the welds/tacks are still too hot. You want none to very little sugaring on the inside. Keep the tungsten really close to the material and you don't need a welding rod to just do the tacks as long as there are no gaps in the joints have fun!!

Not using any rod for the tacks at all. Developed a little hole on one of the joints when it wasn't quite tight enough so i filled it a bit, but i agree its a bit "hot looking" Using 50 amps max, 3/32 red to a point, and 20 cfh argon. Not gonna do the full welding until i work on some more scrap 321 first.

 

[dbsupra90]

looking good B!

i was thinking, what the hell is going on here? then i remembered where your turbo was lol.

 

[88YotaTurbo]

Not using any rod for the tacks at all. Developed a little hole on one of the joints when it wasn't quite tight enough so i filled it a bit, but i agree its a bit "hot looking" Using 50 amps max, 3/32 red to a point, and 20 cfh argon. Not gonna do the full welding until i work on some more scrap 321 first.

:aigo: :aigo: :aigo:
Someone is speaking French, I have to learn about welding.
Soldering on the other hand. Mucho easy.

 

[Enraged]

out of curiousity, was that intake flange from rossmachine? I noticed they have a "supra" flange listed on their site, but doesnt mention the motor.

 

[Slow66]

out of curiousity, was that intake flange from rossmachine? I noticed they have a "supra" flange listed on their site, but doesnt mention the motor.

Nope...unfortunately the one they make is for the 2j.

I just had steps cut into the flange for the Ross Machine oval tubing i have.

 

[adampecush]

How the hell are you going to have room to run a bead on the "inside" of the last runner you weld up (at the collector)?

 

[SupaMan]

thats basicly what i was askin adam but i think it came out wrong.

 

[fstoy]

He is just going to glue them all in:sarcasm: . J/K

 

[Slow66]

How the hell are you going to have room to run a bead on the "inside" of the last runner you weld up (at the collector)?

The runners aren't welded to the collector. It is a double slip fit and the runners are bolted to the collector. Some pics to help show what i mean....

runner with outer slip to the left, collector to the right

tabs are welded to the runner and the collector to facilitate bolting together....kinda like this...(only not so far apart)

Make better sense?