rod and main bearings

[maitai69691]

im doing a rebuild and looking at some new bearings. I was going to put all new clevit mains and rods but Hpfreaks.com has a sale on Toga main bearings i never heard of them but the sound like there prety good and only a cpl dollers more. I was just woundering if there worth the extra money. The eng will be in the 320-350+ HP range

 

[gofastgeorge]

As far as I can tell, TOGA stuff is 75% BS.......
Talked to them about one of their 'High Volume' oil pumps one time.
Asked them just how did they get more volume, longer, or larger diameter gears.
Was all set to buy, cash waiting.
Turns out they are just stock pumps, with a whole lot of BS attached, and a mystery origin (china??).

Oh, and stay away from King bearings, pure crap.........
Until I seen them, I had never seen bearings with ripples in the surface, or clear lacquer on the back side.
Thank god the engine I bought (had Eagle rods & JE pistons in it) had never been started after rebuild.

All my engines get bearings that come in a Clevite box.
No mystery brand bearings for me, thank you.

 

[IJ.]

As far as I can tell, TOGA stuff is 75% BS.......
Talked to them about one of their 'High Volume' oil pumps one time.
Asked them just how did they get more volume, longer, or larger diameter gears.
Was all set to buy, cash waiting.
Turns out they are just stock pumps, with a whole lot of BS attached, and a mystery origin (china??).

Oh, and stay away from King bearings, pure crap.........
Until I seen them, I had never seen bearings with ripples in the surface, or clear lacquer on the back side.
Thank god the engine I bought (had Eagle rods & JE pistons in it) had never been started after rebuild.

All my engines get bearings that come in a Clevite box.
No mystery brand bearings for me, thank you.

"Lucky Dip" bearings

 

[gofastgeorge]

"Lucky Dip" bearings

You have a way of making my day Ian........

Well, at least they don't have ripples in the surface.

 

[IJ.]

<nodding> King Tri's are bad enough the BiMetal bearings are a nasty joke and splooge out the sides under pressure...

 

[AcIdBuRn02ZTS]

Might as well go back with oem bearings... from my understanding... they are pretty decent...

Also... I could be wrong... but arnt 7m clevite bearings just reboxed NPRs?

That what I had heard anyways..... I could be wrong on that...

-AcId-

 

[Kevin]

what about acl?

 

[IJ.]

Might as well go back with oem bearings... from my understanding... they are pretty decent...

Also... I could be wrong... but arnt 7m clevite bearings just reboxed NPRs?

That what I had heard anyways..... I could be wrong on that...

-AcId-

NDC's in some ACL's in others....

what about acl?

They don't do the Race series for M engines, my crank shop steered me away from them for high hp builds (500+).

 

[RotaryHead]

so what bearings should we go with

 

[IJ.]

so what bearings should we go with

What are your power goals?

 

[TheNewRed]

IJ i had a friend tell me that the OEM bearings are drying up, and are getting more difficult to find. Do you feel the same? I mean Toyota could only produce so many, and our cars are 20 years old, so what do we do when all the Toyo bearings are gone? And to the OP, for any application the most reliable and accurate bearings i have seen are the OEMs, unless IJ knows something we dont.

 

[IJ.]

EVERYTHING OEM for these cars is drying up

Used to be if a part was NLA you'd order it and Toyota would do a remake on it and 6 weeks later you'd have a shiney new whatever you needed, now NLA means just that.

 

[suprafredde]

What are your power goals?

Say 500whp or more.
I bought acl bearings but if there are better bearings out there Ill get those. Going to run je pistons with eagle rods.

suprafredde

 

[IJ.]

Say 500whp or more.
I bought acl bearings but if there are better bearings out there Ill get those. Going to run je pistons with eagle rods.

suprafredde

NDC's for sure then.

 

[Jeff Lange]

I would expect Toyota bearings to still be available for at least a few years yet.

As far as I know they are still in production.

Jeff

 

[RotaryHead]

around 6 to 700

 

[IJ.]

around 6 to 700

NDC's, Genuine Toyota but sizes are limited.

 

[Zumtizzle]

NDC's in some ACL's in others....

They don't do the Race series for M engines, my crank shop steered me away from them for high hp builds (500+).

Clevite is

NDC in standard sized main and rod boxes, also in .25 oversize rod Boxes.

Federal Mogul in Some old stock Standard Mains, and all .25 Oversize Main boxes.

 

[IJ.]

Clevite is

NDC in standard sized main and rod boxes, also in .25 oversize rod Boxes.

Federal Mogul in Some old stock Standard Mains, and all .25 Oversize Main boxes.

This week....

 

[Zumtizzle]

This week....

Good Point.

But If I were to go back; I'd pick up federal mogals from NAPA and Clevites from Titan as long as they promise to make sure it says made in japan.