Requesting assistance with SSQV installation. (>^_^)>

o o o m i k e e

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I'm new to this forum (Yay!), my name is Michael! Nice to meet you all! I've read a lot and this forum has been a great help on several occasions.

This is my first post, so you may critique me if I'm not providing enough information or if I don't understand most terms. I'm pretty new to modifying anything with my car.

This is my very first car, most of the parts, if not all are stock. With the exception of a new muffler. I've decided to go ahead and get a new blow-off valve (which may be stupid for a first upgrade?)for this sweetheart.

I have no idea where to start. I've managed to take a couple of pictures of whats underneath my hood, so you may see what I'm working with. I don't currently have any pictures of my BOV, except that its a SSQV I didn't buy a kit, maybe I should have. It came with the flange, hose, T adapater (I think that's what it is called.), and two allen wrenches.

I think I may need a flange pipe? I don't know where to start! I think I'm suppose to remove the stock bov? Or is it okay if I leave it there? What's the drawback if I leave it there, and vice versa? I apologize if I'm incompetent, please have some patience with me. I'm just a huge mess.

I'm sorry if the pictures aren't very clear, they were taken with my phone's camera. (Probably should have bought a new camera before the BOV? xD) Maybe you could edit my pictures, and draw arrows or something! I'll take any form of help! =P
 

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SupraCorwin

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I can tell you what I know...

Yes you will need an intake pipe with the specific hks style flange on it.
Yes you can leave the stock BOV there, or take it off. If you leave the stock on the engine won't stall as bad in between shifts due to fuel richness from the HKS venting metered air to the atmosphere. (personaly I only run the HKS, and i never had a problem with stalling, only the very occasional small exhuast pop)

Oh and there is an Introduction section to place your first post in, but you shouldn't post tech Q's in it, so I guess you did the right thing, sorta :)
 
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o o o m i k e e

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Is there any drawback in leaving the stock bov on? As for the flange pipe, I found one but it's only 6" long. I don't believe that's long enough to fit into the ends of each rubber tube thingamajigs. T_T

What can I do about that? Just find a longer pipe? Or.... *dies

I don't even know where to place it. I'm a moron. I DONT DESERVE THIS CARR
 

DBN

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I think this is the point where we tell him to recirculate the ssqv and eliminate the stock one altogether. It's really not fun trying to keep your car from dying in traffic. The whole reason why mines is not connected so I don't have to worry about it. Yeah... you might think the sound is super cool but it ain't super cool when the engine dies right after.
 

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ERA;1331545 said:
Do I know you?

I don't know, do I? Hah.


As for the flange pipe, I'm just going to buy one off of ebay, I'll leave a picture of it at the bottom of the post, hopefully it will work. It's 7.5" long and about 2.5" for the inlet/outlet size.

Could I just remove the stock bov and put plugs where A is?
 

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alloyguitar

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Okay, I'll try to help.

Yes, you can just plug the stock bov locations.

and the whole "car dying in traffic" thing that was mentioned earlier never was a big deal for me. Basically, if you boost, and push the clutch in, the idle will drop pretty low, since metered air was let off and the car will richen up because of it. I hear it's a bit of a problem if you have an auto, but I wouldn't have any experience with that.

As far as the install, you are going to either need that pipe, or replace some of your stock intercooler piping with a metal piece and get the flange welded on. Given that you said you're new to this sort of thing, I'm assuming that you're going to go with purchasing the pipe...

...If that's the case, all you have to do is find a spot in your intercooler piping to locate your BOV. When I had the stock piping (which has been a bit, so I may be a little rusty) my ssqv was in the center of the upper plastic pipe, which had been replaced with a metal version which resembled something like this:

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(this isn't my car)

My personal favorite would be in the fender behind the fog light, but I don't believe that this would be feasible with the stock intercooler piping. If you're still having issues, I may have the metal upper IC pipe from my setup in the garage, but it would need a few flange welded on. You could have it for whatever it would cost to ship it if you want it. She's not the prettiest thing in the world, but it could probably be cleaned up.

After you have it installed, all you need to do is hook up a vacuum line and have some fun.

Hope that helps for ya! Welcome to the forums, and feel free to pm me if you have any hangups. I'm sure you'll get the hang of the whole supra-modification thing in no time.
 

alloyguitar

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P.S. I just saw your photo on there. You should plug the stock BOV port on the 3000 pipe (i.e. the one that says "3000" on it) and on the accordion hose (or, the intake on the turbo)

That way you don't have hoses going to nothing.

And you can mount that piece in the location that you chose, but it won't be a direct fit, so you're going to need something on either side of the pipe that you chose.
 

DBN

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Must be really lucky then because if I did it on mine there was a pretty good chance of stall. But still, lets not trouble the guy. Also not good on your cats. They don't like excess fuel.
 

alloyguitar

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DBN;1331639 said:
Must be really lucky then because if I did it on mine there was a pretty good chance of stall. But still, lets not trouble the guy. Also not good on your cats. They don't like excess fuel.

I've installed them on at least four different cars, all with the same result, BUT every car/motor is different, so you never know.

Michael, If you're worried about stalling, buy this:

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Here

install it into the front of your ssqv, and run a hose from the fitting into the accordion hose (i.e. turbo intake hose) and you shouldn't have any stalling issues.
 

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o o o m i k e e

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Alright! So I installed the SSQV! (Backwards, yes I know. I'll turn it around once the proper rubber pipe arrives in the mail to adjust it accordingly!) and it does indeed stall when I plug the 3000 pipe and the accordion pipe.

So I went ahead and ordered the recirculation kit. But for the mean time (while waiting for the kit to arrive!), I left the stock bypass valve on, and plugged the vacuum line (Is this okay? Or should I remove it?) on it. It stopped stalling after I did that, the SSQV I installed and it is ridiculously loud when I drive it around, and the boost kicks in. Its not so loud when I just throttle it parking though.

I have a question though! What if I ran a pipe from the 3000 end to the accordion pipe? My friend says that's basically what my set up is right now, except instead of using a proper pipe I'm substituting with the stock bypass valve. Will that do anything?

Learning so much! I thank you guys for all your help! BIG thanks to MA70Snowman for providing me with the flange pipe, plugs and tips! <33!

Criticize please! Sorry for the bad video and picture, used my phone for it. =[

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJotHOhD6d4&feature=player_embedded
 

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alloyguitar

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no, it's not a problem that you have the stock bov there, but I'd get rid of it just for aesthetics sake.

you could run a hose between the two, but what you have will work just fine.

...and when the recirc stuff gets there, all you have to do is plug the 3000 pipe hole, and run the line from the recirc fitting into the accordion hose. I.e. you don't need anything running from the accordion hose to the 3000 pipe anymore.

hope that helps!
 

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alloyguitar;1336426 said:
P.S. how is the ssqv backwards, exactly?

it's facing forward...

Well, most set-ups that I looked at had the ssqv on the inner side of the pipe, near the turbo itself. But the way I placed it was on the opposite side, next to the struts(which of course, will get in the way of a strut bar!). After I get a proper fitting, it should be faced the other way? :1zhelp:

It's so LOUD. I'm almost afraid I'm going to get pulled over! Hahah. If THAT doesn't catch a cop's attention, I don't know what will. :sarcasm:

It's a wide, pleasant sqeek. It can be heard echoing down the street. The best way I can describe it would be uh.. If I ran alongside a glass wall with a knife screeching across it.

That, or FFFFAAAAHHSSSHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!




P.S. Those red things you see are shortened zip ties that I used to clamp the vacuum hose to the hose adapter, since I didn't have a proper clamp that was small enough. The other zip tie was to just keep it from.... well I don't know.

Snap-Ring's are not fun to put in. =[
 

alloyguitar

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When I had to install mine, I modified (i.e. ground down the ends) of a pair of needle nose pliers, because my snap ring pliers wouldn't cooperate. Worked great.

and if you think one is loud, we installed two of them on a friend's car. One's in the fender near the foglight, and one's above the motor like yours.

...let me put it this way, if you were sleeping and the car happened to drive by, it would probably wake you up whenever he shifted.

With that being said, I have an ssqv and have never had problems with the police over it. Of course, they never said anything about my 4" exhaust, either, so maybe I'm just lucky.
 

alloyguitar

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Oh, and as far as fitment is concerned, if you're putting a strut tower bar, that may be a problem, but there really isn't a "right" way to have your BOV face. Hell, mine's right behind my driver's side fog light.
 

o o o m i k e e

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Well, as long as putting a plug on the vacuum line of the old bypass valve is okay, didn't want to do anything that was dangerous. But then again, I took that bet when I got this car. :biglaugh:

By the way, does anyone know what this part is called? My best friend was helping me install this and she kept sqeezing and grabbing at me while I was doing the vacuum lines, I dropped this piece and she stepped right on it. I might need a new one. =P

The old one works, just a bit bent. But rather not take any risk. I'm sure someone's knows the name of this piece!

Here's a picture of what I'm looking for:
 

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