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fast 7m

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very impressive build, I track my supra at PIR. I have a GT35R setup on my 91 mkiii and seems to do very well as far as response and balance. I suggest running the T4 setup since ITE does not have any restriction. I really think you should switch over to AEM you will love the throttle response and boost response so much more. Keep me posted on your tuning. I work at Forged performance so let me know if there is anything I cnl help with. Best of luck
 

CajunKenny

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At fast 7m and Van:

There are a few guys over here that are wanting to head to PIR so we should set a date and all head out there!
 

Van

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CajunKenny;1663713 said:
Wow Van! Those are impressive numbers for only 7 psi!

What gear did they do the pulls in and what afr's?

"All pulls were done in 4th gear. The A/F was 10.5 under full boost that may seem a little rich but that's where it ran the best. Wryann VIP Performance"

Van
 
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Van

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CajunKenny;1664212 said:
At fast 7m and Van:

There are a few guys over here that are wanting to head to PIR so we should set a date and all head out there!

I usually go on my birthday month, March... Usually it's a wet track, but I don't care. The cost is $200 for the track fee. I drive w/ my club, Cascade Sports Car Club, and we are sponsoring a track day, March 19th, and members get in for $190. Membership is $30 /Yr. Here's a link http://www.cascadesportscarclub.org/ Van
 

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:3d_frown:I noticed a cheddar cheese colored, foamy substance in the 7Ms catch can today. Too bad I washed it away with brake cleaner. When it builds up again I'll take a photo so we can all get a good look.
My question is: Need I be concerned it is a cause of something adverse going on in my engine, and need to get the oil analysed? Van
 
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if your catch can is vented to the intake, then it is normal as some moisture will get into the system and cycle through. My catch can has a slight "milkyness" to the oil in catch tank-but the oil is clean everywhere else (sump, under the oil cap, etc.).
 

CajunKenny

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That's real nice power for a 10.5 afr Van. Safe too! :)



Van;1664226 said:
I usually go on my birthday month, March... Usually it's a wet track, but I don't care. The cost is $200 for the track fee. I drive w/ my club, Cascade Sports Car Club, and we are sponsoring a track day, March 19th, and members get in for $190. Membership is $30 /Yr. Here's a link http://www.cascadesportscarclub.org/ Van

Thanks for the info!
 

Van

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polobai;1664749 said:
if your catch can is vented to the intake, then it is normal as some moisture will get into the system and cycle through. My catch can has a slight "milkyness" to the oil in catch tank-but the oil is clean everywhere else (sump, under the oil cap, etc.).
The 7M's catch can is on the cool side of the engine and is recirculating vapors into the intake. None-the-less, when using NEO last year, we never experienced this "foaming".
I got a look at my wife's VW and the oil fill cap has a pasty, orange substance on it. She reports that it is there all the time, even after driving the car for almost an hour, when the o/s temps are below 40F. She does her own oil top up. We decided to order NEO and mix 50/50 w/Amsoil of the same viscosity.
Let's see what happens. Van
 

Van

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CajunKenny;1664770 said:
That's real nice power for a 10.5 afr Van. Safe too! :)



Thanks for the info!
You're welcome, Kenny.
I discovered the cause for the nebulus ignition problem... Number four high tension cord was not more than 1/3 way in the coil socket. Looking at it I could see the metal tip! Push it in; and all the rest were in all the way. Road tested and it pulls really hard now! I wonder how many more LbFt torque I felt?
I'm going back in for the final tune and that means adjusting the cam gears. Let's see if there is another 10-20 Hp left in there. We're going to go no higher than 12psig, on this CT26, then turn it down to 10psig, for longevity.

Van
 

Van

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IBoughtASupra;1664800 said:
Nice. Let us know how that turns out.

I will...
Here are a couple of shots of the Supra.
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And...
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Van

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Update: VIP Performance reports that while tuning, the car still pulls timing, there is noticable knock and the AFRs are choppy, i.e., 10.3 - 10.9:1. Ryann of VIP suspects it's the AFC. He has another AFC that he knows to be reliable and will wire it into the car to see if the issues go away. He also thinks it may be the one old part on the ignition system, the CPS. I'll be dropping off the car for them to sort it out next week.
I spoke w/Ryann, he now believes it is the AFC NEO, as Apexi had sold many with bad boards, that made other cars behave the way mine is.:: angry ::
He remineded me that there were two good runs, among those that had the symptoms, even those "good" runs, had the choppy AFRs though... That led him to suspect the AFC.
I hope it gets resolved so I can really enjoy this car to it's fullest! Van
 
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IBoughtASupra

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I know a new CPS is about 650 from the dealer. What about getting your rebuilt? I have one that works, so if you are interested, let me know. You have spent this much money already, get a new one from the dealer and be done with it or get an AEM, remove the AFM, make more power and run a cam and crank sensor to eliminate the old CPS. Duane does it, works well. You choice, both are good options.
 

Van

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Update:
Ryann of VIP reports the known, working AFC, wired into the car, didn't correct the misfire problem. He can't resolve the problem as the TCCS is still able to overcome the AFC, and retard timing. His solution... AEM/EMS for 7MGTE and 3,025 dollars, which covers the cost of the EMS and all the sensors, then programming, dyno and street tuning.:aigo: I'm not convinced.
I don't understand how this complex system works together. I like being armed with the facts and an understanding of how this system all works together, before I ask someone else to work on my car. So, there is some frustration at work on me.
I want to trust him, but I just don't, yet. He suggested this option before I even had him tune the car. So, I suspect he has alterior motives.
I'll talk w/ him some more later this week. Van
 
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IBoughtASupra

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LOL! The misfire up top can be the CPS. If you are going to go with an AEM, do a cam and crank sensor setup and get rid of the stock CPS. $3,025.00 for what?
 

CajunKenny

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The TCCS is a formidable force! Fighting it will make you pull your hair out! Right after peak torque, it adds about 8* of timing. Aside from a standalone, the only way I've heard of a "work-around" is to back base timing down a couple degrees.

I had a misfire problem that was solved by going to the MK4 VVTI Coils. When I was running the stock coils, I couldn't get past 15 psi without break-up even with my plugs gapped to 24 thou.
 

Van

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CajunKenny;1678568 said:
The TCCS is a formidable force! Fighting it will make you pull your hair out! Right after peak torque, it adds about 8* of timing. Aside from a standalone, the only way I've heard of a "work-around" is to back base timing down a couple degrees.

I had a misfire problem that was solved by going to the MK4 VVTI Coils. When I was running the stock coils, I couldn't get past 15 psi without break-up even with my plugs gapped to 24 thou.

My plugs were gapped down to 20 at one point and still the misfire at 8psig.

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IBoughtASupra;1678561 said:
LOL! The misfire up top can be the CPS. If you are going to go with an AEM, do a cam and crank sensor setup and get rid of the stock CPS. $3,025.00 for what?

Woops! Sorry for the lost context. I fixed my post above. Van
 
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