Yeah, I had the display before I got the pc and it was a little tough to watch. They should have made it be able to display the wideband number full screen.
PLX M-300 Wideband.
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^Exactly, evaluate you logs later, pay attention to more important things while driving. And as you said, you can't see it anyway, at the speed it's happening, much less remember.bigaaron said:
If you put in a switch for the user selectable display, this unit effectively takes the place of four gauges; a/f, egt, boost and vf. The rpm and tps, that it additionally logs, are not necessary to display but tps can be.
and don't forget it's peak hold for all inputs
Blue87T(Dan) said:
You can assume absolutely ANYTHING your little heart wants to.
as for me. I guess I know and really that is all that really needs to matter
They are working on putting logic for the ZT in the MafT Pro. It should be there shortly.
I am not overly thrilled with the display either, since I can't really look at it when going WOT. That probably is true of most gauges though though some might be easier to read.
I bought the ZT for the datalogging capabilites and have been very pleased so far.
I think most of us understand that being able to gather data, review it, and make the appropriate changes to our tuning device of choice and then log it after the changes to confirm that the adjustments were made correctly to our satisfaction is the only way to go.
Damn, that was a long sentence.
I am not overly thrilled with the display either, since I can't really look at it when going WOT. That probably is true of most gauges though though some might be easier to read.
I bought the ZT for the datalogging capabilites and have been very pleased so far.
I think most of us understand that being able to gather data, review it, and make the appropriate changes to our tuning device of choice and then log it after the changes to confirm that the adjustments were made correctly to our satisfaction is the only way to go.
Damn, that was a long sentence.
The only time I would EVER be logging my numbers at certain RPM would be on a dyno tune. They would already have all the meters hooked up and could tell me what everything critical was at that "certain point"....
watching BULLET right now....be back later :biglaugh:
watching BULLET right now....be back later :biglaugh:
siman said:
Please sell your Supra and go back to Honda land.
You are ignorant, the whole purpose of a WB is so you don't have to go to the dyno to tune!
Blue87T(Dan) said:
Dan,
Your talking all this crap because I said I dont feel the need to data log.....
here is a big fat cookie:
-Jonathan
PS: Dan, now dont eat too many! You will lose a tenth of a second for every 10 lbs you gain! That 40 year old metabolism cannot take much abuse! You might want to data log every meal you eat as well to make sure you stay in "tune"....
Siman, it was cool when you backed me up on the 1j coil debacle, but on this one you are way off bro. I really do not understand where you come up with your arguements sometimes, other then just to argue.
See how the graphs let you tune? You can scroll back or forward once you stop logging and use the info to adjust all the different rpm points of your afc. As you move the cursor on the graph, it gives you the number of each graph wherever you put the cursor line.
Oh yeah, UNLIKE a dyno, I can log data under different conditions too. Like going uphill or at the track. The dyno tells you what the car did on the dyno, not in real life situations. Also, your intercooler and cooling system works differently when you are driving then it would on a dyno. I would rather tune for driveability and engine safety then max power anyway.
Aaron,
The entire point of Simann's post was for validation. He already decided that he wanted the PLX 300 and wanted folks to agree with him that is was absolutely, positively the correct choice.
This is kind of like the guy that lists the exact symptoms of a BHG, but then when everyone says BHG, they will try to deny it and wait for someone to post what they want to hear.
Unfortunately, others of us gave our opinions, which was not exactly what he wanted to hear. At that point he went on the defensive, making silly arguments and never looked back.
Simann, please buy the PLX 300. There is no other WB than can possibly suit your needs better.
The entire point of Simann's post was for validation. He already decided that he wanted the PLX 300 and wanted folks to agree with him that is was absolutely, positively the correct choice.
This is kind of like the guy that lists the exact symptoms of a BHG, but then when everyone says BHG, they will try to deny it and wait for someone to post what they want to hear.
Unfortunately, others of us gave our opinions, which was not exactly what he wanted to hear. At that point he went on the defensive, making silly arguments and never looked back.
Simann, please buy the PLX 300. There is no other WB than can possibly suit your needs better.
^Excellent, but why do we keep giving logical valid points when we have no idea what were talking about.bigaaron said:
He'd much rather have some pretty leds to point and say "look what I can do", as there's no way for him to evaluate what it is telling him, in relation to all the other information he needs to consider.
bigaaron Do you have a post/more info about that display? Any more pictures that aren't so close? That's nice :bigthumb:
edit: I found more pictures on your photobucket - Very Nice. Where is the cpu? What size screen? Where did you get it? How did you wire it in? Did you get a larger alternator? Any more info would be great.
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alright, i know i might be stepping into a shit storm but i have a question about wideband o2's. kinda sounds like all of you guys are running safc's, maft's or standalones. i'm planing on doing the lex afm, 550's, walbro, and afpr. how would a simple wideband like the plx be for that combo? i see the benifits of dataloging. is this how most people do it? tuning kinda scares me because i could never tune my 2 stroke remote controlled car when i was little. any thoughts?
plx has some units that do datalog; R-300, R-500 http://www.plxdevices.com/products.htm
without the log, you are just not going to be able to EVALUATE what the engine is doing, the whole time it's running.
without the log, you are just not going to be able to EVALUATE what the engine is doing, the whole time it's running.
A widebend is a excellent idea, even without the datalogging. The PLX is a good unit im sure. You can watch it when you go full throttle and you will be able to easily see what the average afr is. If it drops to 11-12 to 1 you are pretty good. If you hit full throttle and the number starts to climb or does not change, you got problems. If it is like 10 to 1 then it's running too rich. It's a great tool to have with or without the datalogging. The datalogging just help you fine tune at different rpm's and stuff.
^ I do agree. I have mine in all the time. I can glance at anytime and verify how the engine is doing.
You also confirm my point of needing logs to do a proper job of tuning.
The beauty of the zt2, is you can display VF and see what the TCCS is doing
You also confirm my point of needing logs to do a proper job of tuning.
The beauty of the zt2, is you can display VF and see what the TCCS is doing