PLEASE HELP! What turbo is this? *pix 56k/ok*
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IJ. said:
most likely, thats a very large turbine wheel. if he went with a smaller turbine housing it would solve his prob, but because i dont have a crapload of posts what i say doesnt matter or make sense.
William: LOL post count means 0 zip zilch nada nothing!
I agree a tighter Turbine Housing would help but I was more concerned with IDing it first just out of curiosity.
I remember reading something somewhere about the 14 blade Comp wheels but for the life of me can't remember what it was or where......(hey I'm old
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If it's a Diesel unit that would explain why I can't find info on it and why the Comp blades are more upright as they generally don't spin as hard as a Gas Turbo!
I agree a tighter Turbine Housing would help but I was more concerned with IDing it first just out of curiosity.
I remember reading something somewhere about the 14 blade Comp wheels but for the life of me can't remember what it was or where......(hey I'm old
)If it's a Diesel unit that would explain why I can't find info on it and why the Comp blades are more upright as they generally don't spin as hard as a Gas Turbo!
IJ. said:William: LOL post count means 0 zip zilch nada nothing!
I agree a tighter Turbine Housing would help but I was more concerned with IDing it first just out of curiosity.
I remember reading something somewhere about the 14 blade Comp wheels but for the life of me can't remember what it was or where......(hey I'm old
If it's a Diesel unit that would explain why I can't find info on it and why the Comp blades are more upright as they generally don't spin as hard as a Gas Turbo!
it apears to be a large t04b with prolly a q trim turbine, that thing is big. since its so big, it lets more exhaust past the blades, like when they clip a ct26. chances are its an oem turbo of somesort and you may never find any info on it since it doesnt have an obvious brand name on it like garrett, airesearch, holset, rayjay, etc... looks like its in good shape, and yes a larger compressor would make more power, but the spool wouldnt be much diff at the beggining, later in the rpm band the curve will spike much quicker though due to the fact the larger comp is creating more flow in the intake and also the exhaust. btw, you havent said anything about the wastegate so im assuming youve checked it and it is sealing properly. im sure you would have said something if it looked to be a prob. for street use, i wouldnt go with over a 67mm inducer on the compressor wheel myself.
william
ps, for reference, the compressor on my gt4082 is a 58mm inducer and 82mm exducer, and the gt4088 has a 64mm inducer and 88mm exducer. though the turbine is 77mm and not tapered like yours.
William: It seems to be closer to a P trim but the exducer doesn't match anything I can find!
The Comp section is close to a T60/1 but again not really!
It's a Freak of nature!
The Comp section is close to a T60/1 but again not really!
It's a Freak of nature
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YAY! I have a freak of nature turbo...
Well, I think Im going to send it off and have a 67mm put on it... To take advantage of the large housing and large turbine... Maybe when a tech has it in his hands he can say: oh this is what it is...
But who can I trust it to? Majestic? Precision Turbo? Any websites or links to any of these guys? Is PTE the same as Precision Turbo?
Will, when you say 58mm inducer and 82mm exducer, is that like the minor and major part of the fan blades? *like how it tapers?*
As for the wastegate, Im too fat and lazy to pull it... Actually, not lazy, just been working... And not that fat, just kinda chubby, mainly around my waist area, right here... *runs hand over tummy* Yeah, gotta work on that...
Anyway, I'll pull the w/g today and see what its doing... And I'll probably sell it for a TiAL...
*btw: thanks everyone so far for the input! this has been great...
Well, I think Im going to send it off and have a 67mm put on it... To take advantage of the large housing and large turbine... Maybe when a tech has it in his hands he can say: oh this is what it is...
But who can I trust it to? Majestic? Precision Turbo? Any websites or links to any of these guys? Is PTE the same as Precision Turbo?
Will, when you say 58mm inducer and 82mm exducer, is that like the minor and major part of the fan blades? *like how it tapers?*
As for the wastegate, Im too fat and lazy to pull it... Actually, not lazy, just been working... And not that fat, just kinda chubby, mainly around my waist area, right here... *runs hand over tummy* Yeah, gotta work on that...
Anyway, I'll pull the w/g today and see what its doing... And I'll probably sell it for a TiAL...
*btw: thanks everyone so far for the input! this has been great...
OK, I took off the w/g and took some pics... There were NO gaskets, wtf? As you can see in the first pic, there is some major blow-bye... I dont know if it's enough to cause the boost leak... I took the spring out, and it's really weak... Should you be able to compress it with one hand? *between your fingers* And in the second pic, I have no idea what that little black area is... Maybe a little leak? meh... I dont know how to tell if the w/g is leaking, I turned it upside down and put water in the valve cup, and it didnt leak out... ??? But I dunno if that's the best way to test the seat of the valve...
Hope this helps anyone with helpin me
Hope this helps anyone with helpin me
Jake: It's gonna drop maybe 1/2 psi off the top with that leak!
(looks like an old delta gate, use some Maniseal where a gasket would normally be)
Try filling above the valve with some WD40/CRC type stuff and check if the valve seat is good!
I don't think changing out the Comp is going to make a lot of difference 3 Litre just isn't enough volume to spin up a P or Q Trim 04!
(unless you can find a really tight AR housing (thinking sub .5 AR here)
(looks like an old delta gate, use some Maniseal where a gasket would normally be)
Try filling above the valve with some WD40/CRC type stuff and check if the valve seat is good!
I don't think changing out the Comp is going to make a lot of difference 3 Litre just isn't enough volume to spin up a P or Q Trim 04!
(unless you can find a really tight AR housing (thinking sub .5 AR here)
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well, your spring might be the prob. my 50mm gate has a 9psi spring and that bitch is stiff. 15 might just be too much for that spring to allow. might want to try that but id also look for a smaller turbine for it. though it being a freak turbo that might be kinda hard.
and yeah, 58mm is the small front end, and 82mm is the large, rear part of the comp wheel.
and yeah, 58mm is the small front end, and 82mm is the large, rear part of the comp wheel.
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Ok, so what should I do and not do?
I'll tell you what I wanna do, tell me if Im good to go or if I shouldnt do it...
Because I have the big turbine, I wanna put a larger compressor wheel to take advantage of it... Like I said, about a 67mm minor... Debating the turbine housing: should I go smaller than a 70? IJ, I know yur sayin sub .5X, but will that pull to red line? The next thing I wanna do is call T-netics and get them to send me a 1 bar spring...
SHIT! this is frustrating... OK, whats the cheapest route? OK! I know, I'll buy the spring... first... Then: if THAT doesnt help my problem, THEN I'll get a smaller turbine housing and larger comp wheel... BUT I WANT A LARGER COMP WHEEL! I want people to look in that thing and be like DAMN! THATS BIG! I want the most hp with the least amount of boost... I also want a tubular manifold, like an ssautochrome... I'd beef it up some... Do I want too much?
Anyway, am I on the right path? I want, no wait, I NEED 500hp or MOOOOORE! Im built for it, I need the turbo to give it to me!
I'll tell you what I wanna do, tell me if Im good to go or if I shouldnt do it...
Because I have the big turbine, I wanna put a larger compressor wheel to take advantage of it... Like I said, about a 67mm minor... Debating the turbine housing: should I go smaller than a 70? IJ, I know yur sayin sub .5X, but will that pull to red line? The next thing I wanna do is call T-netics and get them to send me a 1 bar spring...
SHIT! this is frustrating... OK, whats the cheapest route? OK! I know, I'll buy the spring... first... Then: if THAT doesnt help my problem, THEN I'll get a smaller turbine housing and larger comp wheel... BUT I WANT A LARGER COMP WHEEL! I want people to look in that thing and be like DAMN! THATS BIG! I want the most hp with the least amount of boost... I also want a tubular manifold, like an ssautochrome... I'd beef it up some... Do I want too much?
Anyway, am I on the right path? I want, no wait, I NEED 500hp or MOOOOORE! Im built for it, I need the turbo to give it to me!
if youve got the fuel, go for it. though like i said, you might not be able to find a smaller turbine housing for that wheel. and if you upgrade to a 67mm inducer on the comp side, you might want to leave that 70 in place.
I DO have the fuel... dual pumps, MKIV intank, 1000HP Paxton external, all braided stainless fuel lines, Paxton FPR, RC ENG injectors...
As for the turbine, that's a pretty big one eh? Those blades are pretty tall, like over an inch... Is that normal?
As for the turbine, that's a pretty big one eh? Those blades are pretty tall, like over an inch... Is that normal?
Jake. Lets take care of the wastegate situation first. You can throw mine on for the time being to see how that effects things. I know mine is good, and I actualy have gaskets.
Come by tomorrow with some allen keys and we'll pull it off and put it on yours.
Come by tomorrow with some allen keys and we'll pull it off and put it on yours.
this is the big thing to cheak if you spring is bad you vent to fast and not get eh boost you want you can feel that by the blow down pipe
and if it leaks you car will strugle for boost i really thken it is your waste gate detas are junk and tend to leak alot and generly small as well
and if it leaks you car will strugle for boost i really thken it is your waste gate detas are junk and tend to leak alot and generly small as well
Bobby, Im going to P'cola tomorrow to do a job that pays BIG... It'll be a shitty job, but I cant turn it down... And with the money, I can get my car straight... FINALLY! so, maybe when I get back, if you still wont mind lettin me "borrow" yours
Nash, its hard to feel the dump tube while driving, and sitting still, I cant build enough boost to check... And yeah, yur right, it does struggle to build boost... Like Ive been saying, I'll hit 15psi, but Im not hitting it until around 6000 rpm... I hit positive boost around 3500 or so, but it's a slow climb to 15...
ANYONE WANT TO BUY A SLIGHTLY USED DELTA GATE? lol... Real cheap! I dunno what to ask for it... How much would you pay for a paper weight? LOL!
Nash, its hard to feel the dump tube while driving, and sitting still, I cant build enough boost to check... And yeah, yur right, it does struggle to build boost... Like Ive been saying, I'll hit 15psi, but Im not hitting it until around 6000 rpm... I hit positive boost around 3500 or so, but it's a slow climb to 15...
ANYONE WANT TO BUY A SLIGHTLY USED DELTA GATE? lol... Real cheap! I dunno what to ask for it... How much would you pay for a paper weight? LOL!
outofstep said:
im with him. always try the cheapest possiblity first, in this case trying a new wg is free so give that a shot.