Passing emisions with a FFIM
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t4boost said:
nope, you think all those old school muscle cars are passing emissions? usually the rule of thumb in most states is 25+ years and the car becomes a classic and isnt required to be emission tested.
yes it does vary from state to state so check with your local DOT or DPS.
I believe the rational for this was that emissions equipment starts to become iffy at best and not worth it to repair
dont sweat it too much there t4, i saw you were pretty new so i didnt ream ya too bad, just watch out next time and check out the rules in the introduction section.
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In Arizona it probably wont be too much trouble.
In California its 1975, and it isn't being moved anymore :[
In California its 1975, and it isn't being moved anymore :[
virginia: https://www.dmv.state.va.us/webdoc/citizen/vehicles/emissions.asp
Certain motor vehicles are exempted from emissions inspections. This includes:
* Any gasoline powered passenger or property carrying vehicle with a model year that is more than 25 model years old before January 1 of the current calendar year and with a manufacturer's designated gross vehicle weight rating of more than 10,000 pounds (i.e. on January 1, 2006, vehicles with a model year of 1981 are exempt from emissions; on January 1, 2007, vehicles with a model year of 1982 are exempt from emissions).
Arizona: http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/2007/E7-5558.htm
....HB 2357 amends Arizona Revised Statutes (ARS) Section 49-542 by
exempting vehicles that are at least 15 years old or are of a unique
and rare design and that carry collectible vehicle insurance that
restricts the mileage and/or use of the vehicle ...
Like i said it varies......
Certain motor vehicles are exempted from emissions inspections. This includes:
* Any gasoline powered passenger or property carrying vehicle with a model year that is more than 25 model years old before January 1 of the current calendar year and with a manufacturer's designated gross vehicle weight rating of more than 10,000 pounds (i.e. on January 1, 2006, vehicles with a model year of 1981 are exempt from emissions; on January 1, 2007, vehicles with a model year of 1982 are exempt from emissions).
Arizona: http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/2007/E7-5558.htm
....HB 2357 amends Arizona Revised Statutes (ARS) Section 49-542 by
exempting vehicles that are at least 15 years old or are of a unique
and rare design and that carry collectible vehicle insurance that
restricts the mileage and/or use of the vehicle ...
Like i said it varies......
I hope you guys are not selectively reading
"January 1 of the current calendar year and with a manufacturer's designated gross vehicle weight rating of more than 10,000 pounds"
AND....
that means Older tha Jan 1 AND has to be 10,000 lbs or more!!! I know our pigs are heavy but good lord!!!
"January 1 of the current calendar year and with a manufacturer's designated gross vehicle weight rating of more than 10,000 pounds"
AND....
that means Older tha Jan 1 AND has to be 10,000 lbs or more!!! I know our pigs are heavy but good lord!!!
hoping this kicks people into gear to find out more about their state laws
HellsLegion said:
Ummm...yeah it will. Tried to pass AZ emissions w/out an EGR last summer...treid every trick I know. Couldn't do it (4 tries)...finally had to install the EGR and it passed the 5th try with flying colors.
In California intake manifolds are considered a grey area. It can be any design you want as long as it has all the factory smog equipment atached to it. I would think it would be the same for Arizona since Califonria has some of the toughest smog laws.
I not sure about the supra, cause I just got mine. but with my old car I didn't have a egr hooked up (j-spec motor didn't come with it). all I did was make sure that all the lines to the purge sensors were hooked up and it passed no problem.
again not sure how the supra's egr works but on ford's/mazda's all you need is the vac. lines hooked up to keep the cel from coming on.
again not sure how the supra's egr works but on ford's/mazda's all you need is the vac. lines hooked up to keep the cel from coming on.
the egr in CA is a visual and functional test (check with vac pump). During the smog test itself the egr is not even functioning.
Say what? That's just plain wrong. The EGR must not only be functional during the test but the test itself is designed around it. Why do you think ASM loaded mode enhanced emissions testing was mandated over the older two speed idle test to begin with? What do you think the entire point of using the dyno is? It's to test for NOx and EGR is the system that controls NOx. In that sense EGR is *the* reason they put the car on a dyno in the first place.
One other thing, manifolds are not a gray area anywhere. There are federal standards, and yes state state standards. California is higher than the feds, yes.
No part on a car can be replaced in the US unless it proves not to be a polluter during a test. This is why many non polluting performance parts are still classified off road use only. It costs money to have the test done.
No part on a car can be replaced in the US unless it proves not to be a polluter during a test. This is why many non polluting performance parts are still classified off road use only. It costs money to have the test done.
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yes in ca you cant even change the filter legaly unless you have a EO CARB sticker with number to aprove the mod intakes are illegal.
My brother working at dodge told me even some of the new cars dont come with EGR at all i was confused i thought it was a visual check that all cars had to pass.
My brother working at dodge told me even some of the new cars dont come with EGR at all i was confused i thought it was a visual check that all cars had to pass.