JJs favorite question... the spark plug firing in the ungrounded head. :biglaugh: For those of us who've been around the block, we know the answer can be found on this site, because one day he caved in and spilled the beans!:icon_surp
No start (spark?)...
- Thread starter astkgse
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Where exactly is the ungrounded head? Meaning: Sitting on a table, in another engine bay, on the floor, etc... Or am I already headed in the wrong direction?
The only things I hear are two simultaneous clicks. A louder one in the engine compartment and softer one in the dash on the passenger side. The injectors read 11.6.
How do I spin the cps? When I was in that before checking the g1 etc. the only way I could spin it was by the crank. I assume that's what you mean.
How do I spin the cps? When I was in that before checking the g1 etc. the only way I could spin it was by the crank. I assume that's what you mean.
Sitting anywhere you'd like. Not connected to anything but the spark plug wire.
I caved? Damn. Don't remember that. Guess I'll have to find a new question
I caved? Damn. Don't remember that. Guess I'll have to find a new question
You get a code 12 when the ECU sees the starter signal, but doesn't detect any pulses from the CPS within a few seconds.
Since you don't have a scope, use your multimeter and work back from the CPS. You said you saw 170 ohms for NE G1 G2 at the CPS. Pull off the ECU connector and measure them there as well. You should still see the same resistance measurements. If not, you have a break in the wire somewhere between the CPS and ECU.
Since you don't have a scope, use your multimeter and work back from the CPS. You said you saw 170 ohms for NE G1 G2 at the CPS. Pull off the ECU connector and measure them there as well. You should still see the same resistance measurements. If not, you have a break in the wire somewhere between the CPS and ECU.
JJ, yes, post #28 was sarcasm, That's why I asked the question "Seriously?"
And I apologise for not being the most forum-quote savvy person here. In my post #30, I did state that I fixed several other wiring issues at the same time I replaced the ground strap, so I might be mistaken on the "no strap-no spark" issue, but it is included inside your quote, so it is not readily apparent. Again, I apologise. I am still learning the forum posting format and features.
I do not know it all, like so many others here. (Sarcasm)
That is why I ask questions. So that I may keep learning.
No intentional ball busting here, just a search for answers and enlightenment for all to share. I don't care WHO is right or WHO is wrong (unlike some others here, apparently).
My only concern is that the ANSWER is RIGHT. That is all the OP, or any of us, should care about.
In this particular instance, I was trying to give the OP as much pertinent information as possible by seeking clarification and identifying sources of information.
If my information is incorrect, I'm sure the OP, and me as well, would appreciate the correction. I am not always right (just ask my wife, LOL), and I appreciate it when I am corrected, as I learn more from my mistakes than I do from my sucesses.
But I tend not to rely on anecdotal information whenever possible. I prefer published information. My anecdotal description of my no-strap, no-spark "experience" illustrates my point. And as such, I asked for your sources of information so that everyone, not just me, could verify their accuracy independently from an individuals "experiences."
If that is not the purpose of this forum, please let me know, and I'll leave right away.
If this is an "I'm right and you're wrong" kind of forum, then I'm wrong for this forum.
Rob
And I apologise for not being the most forum-quote savvy person here. In my post #30, I did state that I fixed several other wiring issues at the same time I replaced the ground strap, so I might be mistaken on the "no strap-no spark" issue, but it is included inside your quote, so it is not readily apparent. Again, I apologise. I am still learning the forum posting format and features.
I do not know it all, like so many others here. (Sarcasm)
That is why I ask questions. So that I may keep learning.
No intentional ball busting here, just a search for answers and enlightenment for all to share. I don't care WHO is right or WHO is wrong (unlike some others here, apparently).
My only concern is that the ANSWER is RIGHT. That is all the OP, or any of us, should care about.
In this particular instance, I was trying to give the OP as much pertinent information as possible by seeking clarification and identifying sources of information.
If my information is incorrect, I'm sure the OP, and me as well, would appreciate the correction. I am not always right (just ask my wife, LOL), and I appreciate it when I am corrected, as I learn more from my mistakes than I do from my sucesses.
But I tend not to rely on anecdotal information whenever possible. I prefer published information. My anecdotal description of my no-strap, no-spark "experience" illustrates my point. And as such, I asked for your sources of information so that everyone, not just me, could verify their accuracy independently from an individuals "experiences."
If that is not the purpose of this forum, please let me know, and I'll leave right away.
If this is an "I'm right and you're wrong" kind of forum, then I'm wrong for this forum.
Rob
Lol at Jon...
Kenny: The plug will not fire outside of said head.
ts: It' all good. Stick around. You have to remember a lot of stuff gets posted that needs to be corrected and even the best here sometimes get it wrong. Besides, it's just the internet. Nothing to get worked up about.
Edit: Just so you understand it does matter who's right. The membership has come to expect accurate information in the tech section and to ensure this the site has a policy concerning just that. And as far as "anecdotal" evidence much of what's offered is far more. There are people on this forum who have educational and/or experience levels that make this stuff stone simple (it's just a car you know) for them. We're all here to learn but if you're going to bang heads with these folks, and there are several, you'd best have something similar to back you up.
Kenny: The plug will not fire outside of said head.
ts: It' all good. Stick around. You have to remember a lot of stuff gets posted that needs to be corrected and even the best here sometimes get it wrong. Besides, it's just the internet. Nothing to get worked up about.
Edit: Just so you understand it does matter who's right. The membership has come to expect accurate information in the tech section and to ensure this the site has a policy concerning just that. And as far as "anecdotal" evidence much of what's offered is far more. There are people on this forum who have educational and/or experience levels that make this stuff stone simple (it's just a car you know) for them. We're all here to learn but if you're going to bang heads with these folks, and there are several, you'd best have something similar to back you up.
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More like the charge of the head. Remember, a waste spark system doesn't fire with the same polarity on each plug. Now quit asking and find out elsewhere. The OP's thread has been jacked enough
YESSSSSS!!! He caved again!!!!! :biglaugh:
That's where I was headed next...He he...
Ok....ehem....back on topic!
That's where I was headed next...He he...
Ok....ehem....back on topic!
Good. Keep the patents coming. The one unfair advantage this country still has is a culture of innovation. If we can keep that going, we stand a chance in this global world.
CajunKenny;1589733 said:Maybe...
Just to report the findings of this issue. The culprit was a bad starter. Replaced it and it starts fine.
I have another question about what is going on with my turbo. It isn't kicking in. Any one know reasons why this might happen.
I have another question about what is going on with my turbo. It isn't kicking in. Any one know reasons why this might happen.
