Need a 7MGE Oil Pan expert... 86.5

mpo

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shaeff said:
i don't know man, i have a set of magnets that'll drag a 12x1.25mm bolt around a pan at my house... (and yes, they came with a warning...)

-shaeff
A steel pan? Or stainless or aluminum?
 

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Figit090 said:
sounds good... i think this needs further investigation. if you got it up to the side of the pan past that baffle thing and let it roll down into the bottom...
If you look at the picture provided in post 3, unfortunately it does not show the drain hole side on the inside. But it suggests that the hole opens up under the baffle plate. So even if we could find the magic magnet that would drag it over there (defying physics in my opinion) it would land on the top side of the baffle and I still could not reach it.

Anyway, I was able to get a very skinny wire to go down the drain hole to the bottom, so I went to Rad Shack and got some tiny RARE EARTH magnets just like you guys like, and I am JB welding them on the end of this skinny wire to make a "getter". They are very strong and very tiny. The hole is about 5/8" dia so I have a small prayer. Otherwise I am going to leave it in there. I don't believe it would make enough noise to effect the knock sensor. But I could be wrong...
 

Figit090

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HOLD UP!!!!

make sure there's nothing in the block besides the bold that it gets stuck to!! if you get it down there and it sticks itself to your engine and you can't pull it back up with the wire you're ScReWeD!!:aigo: :aigo: :aigo: :aigo:

so yeah maybe stick it to the pan and see if you can pull it off with JUST the cable w/out failure.

and i was thinking getting it above that plate, along the side and down through the hole. then you can find it again and pull it BACKWARD to the drain hole which is to the left of the big hole in the baffle plate....

i dunno. we need a better pic.
 

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Picked out of sump from exhaust side rear oil drain
 

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Figit090 said:
HOLD UP!!!!

make sure there's nothing in the block besides the bold that it gets stuck to!! if you get it down there and it sticks itself to your engine and you can't pull it back up with the wire you're ScReWeD!!:aigo: :aigo: :aigo: :aigo:

so yeah maybe stick it to the pan and see if you can pull it off with JUST the cable w/out failure.

and i was thinking getting it above that plate, along the side and down through the hole. then you can find it again and pull it BACKWARD to the drain hole which is to the left of the big hole in the baffle plate....

i dunno. we need a better pic.
I appreciate your advice to hold up but it is a little late, I already have the magnet stuck in there!!! HA HA HA. Oh man. Yeah it hits bottom but then I can't pul it out!! WOOHOOOOO. Well I have some ideas to sort it out. I just need to think of what Jesse Jackson would say now "The only solution to inspiration of innovation is generation of perspiration..." Uh yeah...

As for the dragging down the hole idea, again we would need the magic magnet but anyway, the oil pump strainer is in that big hole I think so it won't fit HA HA HA........................
 

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Jason T said:
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Picked out of sump from exhaust side rear oil drain
OK, so now you have blown my minddddddddd. First of all what the heck is that thing and how did it get down there?

Second, what is the diameter of that magnet on the end there? I definitely have an obstruction on the way down the hole about 6" into the hole. I don't see how I could fit that magnet down there unless it is smaller than it looks. Do tell!!!!!
 

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starscream5000 said:
Just pull the damn pan for Christ's sake, that way you won't have to worry about it later on.
Agreed. While all this talking was going on you prolly coulda pulled the pan had it out, Put the pan back on, And filled the car back up.


That is if your fast :biglaugh: the magnet ideas are good but its takin alot of time to figure it out.
 

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Not until Jason T explains that photo!

Besides I don't even know how I would do the pan without an engine hoist. That job is a SOB...

mpo
 

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mpo said:
I appreciate your advice to hold up but it is a little late, I already have the magnet stuck in there!!! HA HA HA. Oh man. Yeah it hits bottom but then I can't pul it out!! WOOHOOOOO. Well I have some ideas to sort it out. I just need to think of what Jesse Jackson would say now "The only solution to inspiration of innovation is generation of perspiration..." Uh yeah...

As for the dragging down the hole idea, again we would need the magic magnet but anyway, the oil pump strainer is in that big hole I think so it won't fit HA HA HA........................

fuck.



well...i cant help you now. you either yank hard on that wire or take things apart. good luck!!

while you're down there maybe if you need to you can address any possible bearing issues! lol...i'm serious though. if you've had a BHG you might as well check all that and get it to spec....
 

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Well I got the magnet out, it was pretty easy really. And now I can get the magnet in and out easily. However I cannot find the bolt with it. I figured getting it on the magnet would be pretty easy, but getting it all the way out would be hard. But I can't find it with the magnet. Hmmmm. I'll keep at it for a while.
 

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mpo said:
OK, so now you have blown my minddddddddd. First of all what the heck is that thing and how did it get down there?

Second, what is the diameter of that magnet on the end there? I definitely have an obstruction on the way down the hole about 6" into the hole. I don't see how I could fit that magnet down there unless it is smaller than it looks. Do tell!!!!!

Thats a allen key tool used to remove factory head studs

Magnet is about 3mm

Heres a easy fix for bolt in sump

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Change oil & remove bolt from magnet

MA70's 19mm Head sump bung is a 18mm x 1.25 thread I brought a magnetic sump plugs on trademe (Ebay) and made it fit the 7m bung used the magnets force to hold in place and a nead it type steel expoxy to secure in place

Any other toyota sump has the 12mm x 1.25 just not 7m/5m/1S
 
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mpo

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Jason T said:
Thats a allen key tool used to remove factory head studs

Magnet is about 3mm

Heres a easy fix for bolt in sump

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Change oil & remove bolt from magnet
Well the problem there is that the bolt is on the "wrong" side of the baffle plate, so it will never make it to the drain hole as far as I know. It is killing me that I can't locate the bolt with the magnet. The magnet sounds like it comes out in the center of the rear of the pan about 1.5" from the back of the pan. And I think the bolt is right there but the magnet will never grab it.

Anyway here is a question:

What will be the harm in leaving it there? Will it DEFINITELY screw with the knock sensor? I find that a little hard to believe, it would have to be pretty loud.

mpo