My idea, i might get rich soon lol

[Ric]

It is bolt on. The car already has the relays and wiring for the electric fan too. It's a simple unclip and clip.

Again, how do you not trust it? Everybody trusts ebay intercoolers for their turbo setup, 99% of this forum uses them, but using the same pressure tested core for water and everyone freaks out? Your intercooler you got from ebay uses a water core lol.

Basically all we are talking about here on an engineering standpoint, is moving the radiator from behind the front support, to in front of it. Also removing rubber hoses that tend to flex, crack, and break with aluminum ones that will last the life of the car. Silicone connectors will replace rubber ones. Everyone loves samco hoses! On a cooling stand point, it moves the radiator to the front of the car in a more direct path of air, for better cooling.

I don't see any downsides except it's gay, but i guarantee it will find a niche in the tuner show car market with all the other stupid products like carbon fiber wings and stick on hood scoops.

 

[drunk_medic]

I don't see any downsides except it's gay, but i guarantee it will find a niche in the tuner show car market with all the other stupid products like carbon fiber wings and stick on hood scoops.

Yeah, but are you sure that you won't get pissed that they win a trophy for JDM looks when your legit and accurate looking Soarer goes unnoticed again?

 

[dugums]

People are judging this idea based on the wrong criteria. You guys should keep in mind he is not trying to sell this to you. He is not really touting it as a big performance upgrade, rather a cosmetic upgrade that has some function to it. Whether or not some of us would buy it is beside the point.

I've seen a ton of civics, etc. with accessories I would never even think about buying. The point is, somebody did like AND buy these accessories. As a product, I think it is aimed at the right target and only time will tell if it is good idea.

I for one, think you will sell these. Heck, if someone is willing to put a three-tiered aluminum and carbon fiber rear spoiler on the back of their FWD civic, why not a radiator styled like an intercooler in the front grill? Your modification seems way more reasonable to me than some of the other crap I've seen.

Just my .02

 

[iwannadie]

I wouldnt use an ebay intercooler, too many stories of them cracking. Add water into that mix and your asking for trouble. Add ontop of that vital cooling of the motor and your digging your own grave.

Again, a simple fiberglass plate would do the same thing you want to do with no downsides. Adding a function to a faux intercooler isnt needed. It will look out of place with no radiator in the car.

Do what you want though by all means. Im just saying dont over complicate things, you want a faux intercooler make it just that. Noone made a carbon fiber wing thats also a muffler. Sure it can be done, but why?

 

[Ric]

I think you're lost. Where do you think you get an intercooler core from? Intercooler cores are for fluids. Air is a fluid, just like water. I'm not taking a product that was designed for one thing, and using it for another. It's the other way around. I'm using a product that was designed for water, and using it for water. Don't confuse yourself. A standard FMIC is a fluid cooler, it can be used for air, water, oil, anything fluid.

Fiberglass plates are stupid, because it's a faux product. You'll spot it's a fake from 50ft away. I am selling the real working thing. You'll be able to stare right at it 2ft away, and not tell it's not for a turbo.

I don't think this product will ever be purchased by a Supra owner, unless it's Lamarossa. This is for the tuner import crowd like hondas, Hyundai, focus, etc. Alot of those budget tuners love the look of the real thing, but have no use for it. I can find at least 5 people at my job that would love to have a FMIC on their car, but don't want the hassle of a real turbo, and wouldn't want it on there unless it did something becides hang there unhooked. Technically it's not even a ricer mod, rice mods don't do anything except for style. This is a functional modification.

Look at all the body kitted cars out on the streets that look stupid with no intercoolers. I'd be allowing them to have one, and one that served a purpose. You can't laugh at that.

 

[iwannadie]

I think you're lost. Where do you think you get an intercooler core from? Intercooler cores are for fluids. Air is a fluid, just like water. I'm not taking a product that was designed for one thing, and using it for another. It's the other way around. I'm using a product that was designed for water, and using it for water. Don't confuse yourself. A standard FMIC is a fluid cooler, it can be used for air, water, oil, anything fluid.

Fiberglass plates are stupid, because it's a faux product. You'll spot it's a fake from 50ft away. I am selling the real working thing. You'll be able to stare right at it 2ft away, and not tell it's not for a turbo.

I don't think this product will ever be purchased by a Supra owner, unless it's Lamarossa. This is for the tuner import crowd like hondas, Hyundai, focus, etc. Alot of those budget tuners love the look of the real thing, but have no use for it. I can find at least 5 people at my job that would love to have a FMIC on their car, but don't want the hassle of a real turbo, and wouldn't want it on there unless it did something becides hang there unhooked. Technically it's not even a ricer mod, rice mods don't do anything except for style. This is a functional modification.

Look at all the body kitted cars out on the streets that look stupid with no intercoolers. I'd be allowing them to have one, and one that served a purpose. You can't laugh at that.

Still Adding function to a faux product doesnt make sense to me at all. people can tell fake carbon fiber from a mile away but look how common that is. I think the prime market for a faux IC isnt going to be putting it in any car shows.

You could make a mold of a real IC and then just duplicate it in fibreglass, even just the front half thats visible.

Maybe Ill make my true faux Ic plate and see which one makes more money. Youll be fighting with all the mechanical issues of routing a new radiator and cooling properly. Ill just worry about making a faux carbon IC for ultra jdm look. Mine will just bolt on and cost me no thing to produce. Also I wont have all the rice boys emailing me how their honda over heated. When they took it to sears they refused to touch it because it has no radiator.

 

[Ric]

Wow dude, you're really confused. How can you compare spray painted silver fiberglass to a real intercooler? Why would I mold a fake intercooler that 100% blocks the path of air to the radiator and provide the engine with zero cooling because of the blocked airflow?

I guess you don't comprehend the concept. All I am doing is moving the radiator from the engine bay, to the front of the car. Why would an engine overheat? I'm using a larger volume core then OEM. Thats all any racing radiator is, it holds a larger volume of water then stock. I'll be using an intercooler with the same volume as any name brand aftermarket radiator using the same exact style core construction.

Instead of weak rubber, the radiator hoses will be mandrel bent aluminum and only about 1ft longer then stock. The cooling fan provides more CFM then stock.

So I don't see what the problem is. You're getting a huge upgrade in cooling using better materials then OEM. It just so happens my cooling system upgrade looks identical to a turbo FMIC.

 

[iwannadie]

Wow dude, you're really confused. How can you compare spray painted silver fiberglass to a real intercooler? Why would I mold a fake intercooler that 100% blocks the path of air to the radiator and provide the engine with zero cooling because of the blocked airflow?

I guess you don't comprehend the concept. All I am doing is moving the radiator from the engine bay, to the front of the car. Why would an engine overheat? I'm using a larger volume core then OEM. Thats all any racing radiator is, it holds a larger volume of water then stock. I'll be using an intercooler with the same volume as any name brand aftermarket radiator using the same exact style core construction.

Instead of weak rubber, the radiator hoses will be mandrel bent aluminum and only about 1ft longer then stock. The cooling fan provides more CFM then stock.

So I don't see what the problem is. You're getting a huge upgrade in cooling using better materials then OEM. It just so happens my cooling system upgrade looks identical to a turbo FMIC.

Sprayed painted silver lol. Dude I said you can make an exact mold of your IC, even cut it so air can pass through. Im not saying use a flat piece of plastic and spray paint it.... You could make a really decent looking Ic fully outa fibreglass.

So ya.

 

[dugums]

Sprayed painted silver lol. Dude I said you can make an exact mold of your IC, even cut it so air can pass through. Im not saying use a flat piece of plastic and spray paint it.... You could make a really decent looking Ic fully outa fibreglass.

So ya.

LOL, you're making his idea seem better and better....:biglaugh:

 

[Ric]

LOL I know right!

 

[LilMissMkIII]

Ric, i like the idea... All the best getting it off the ground

 

[mkiiSupraMan18]

Rice or not, I agree w/ Ric. There wouldn't be much of a gain but it wouldn't be a huge risk either. I would spend another couple hundred bucks and get something that looked like a real IC rather than a piece of crapp that will just hang there.

I'd say go for it. I'm sure the guy w/ the weld-in turbo sound things made some bank too.

 

[mattjk]

::hah:: Ric, you really want to be known for this?

 

[bigaaron]

Good idea, it will be well received on ricerforums everywhere. I wouldn't want something as critical as a radiator hanging out in front of the car where one small rock could cause a big coolant leak, but I don't think that the type of customer that would buy this would have a clue anyways. But it is a good idea, and it would probably sell.

 

[90T04]

The problem I see with this is that the tubes in an intercooler are way bigger. The tubes in a radiator are small and narrow for a reason, to increase the surface area of the water passing through it. By having that large of a volume of water passing through each tube, its not spread thin enough to give off its heat to the aluminum, and therefore, to the air around the aluminum. It may work but not that well...

 

[Ric]

read... tube and fin intercooler. You can buy them anywhere. They use standard water cores.

 

[AF1JZ]

Ya know Ric, at first there was some flammin. But, you are making perfect sense. I've seen some products that are shit quality and are complete rice and people buy the shit out of them. We've all seen some ricers out there just wondering what in the hell they are thinking. But, as they say though, "to each their own". Sometimes people have to understand that the market is for what the consumer wants. Not necesarily (sp?) what the seller likes.

I think you have a good idea here that I'm sure will sell. And I'm also sure it will be quality work. Good luck and make something already and stop blabbin on here and post some pics. J/K, but I'd like to see how this works out for you.

 

[theKnifeArtist]

it'll work.
commercialize it in an area like my school (UTI:mad rice here), and you shall be mad wealthy.

 

[dugums]

Your mod + http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Civic-RS-Integra-Supra-Stealth-BOV-SOUND-on-N-A-Horn_W0QQitemZ260125694252QQihZ016QQcategoryZ33742QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Lol, the whole turbo experience without all that pesky power...

 

[Jayhall]

Ric's gunna be rich, and we arnt. Bottem line