more steering angle- how does it keep the alignment?

supramic

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ok a while back i saw something anbout adding more steering angle to the mk3s! what im asking is how does Aftermarket tie rods/ends add angle and still keep the alignment???
 

bloodasp90

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well right now theres a company here in japan thats relased front hubs for several cars, im trying to see if any of them are swapable for the JZA70 and make a difference.. ill post more later as i get more info on it..
 

supramic

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in think i might give it a try to, there not that expensive. but just in case i dont please post your results back here with details.
 

Wiisass

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I saw this while I was searching for something else, I must have missed it when it was originally posted.

First, 240 tie rods will not work, they are a different thread on the inner tie rod.

Second, aftermarket tie rods that give you more angle work just like my spacers do, the part of the tie rod that houses the end of the inner tie rod with the ball on it is machined to space the steering stop away from the rack. This works on the same principle that my spacers do. And you will need an alignment after installing any kind of steering mod that will give you more angle.

Not to sound like I'm just trying to push my parts, but my spacers, are the easiest way to get more angle. You will need to adjust your alignment after this, but you would also need to adjust your alignment after installing any tie rods. There are some tips and tricks in the thread in the group buy section on ways to install these without screwing up your alignment too much.

As for hubs, aftermarket hubs won't do anything. Did you mean spindles? If you meant spindles, you will not be able to bolt up another cars spindles. And there's a ton of reasons why. Different geometry, different ball joint sizes, different tapers. If you wanted to use another cars spindles, then you would have less trouble swapping over their whole front suspension and designing new mounts for everything.

And if you guys feel that you need more than stock tie rods with my spacers, I can design and make tie rods. I haven't decided if I'm going to yet, but I've done it for the 240 before and can do it for the supra. Again, it just comes down to if the demand is there. If it's not and a couple people want me to make them, I will but the price will be much higher than I want it to be.

Tim
 

Cz.

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Aftermarket tie rods adjust that actual pivot point of the steering, it's the basically the same idea as a short shifter.
 

Wiisass

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What tie rods are you talking about? And what are they adjusting the pivot relative to? Is it exactly the same as what I said above just worded differently? Or are you trying to say something different?

Adjusting the pivot point and not changing anything else with the tie rod would be a horrible idea. It will affect bumpsteer and ackerman and will have negative effects on both.
 

Cz.

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It's basically the same thing you said, just explained in simpler terms. I didn't really get it until someone physically showed me.