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turbojuiced;1008459 said:
:biglaugh: well then you sir are in denial :biglaugh:

lol, we'll see. Our boy here above us is saying a stripped, non-turbo KA24 240 was weighing in at 2500.....and the guy with the ls1 weight in at 2700.....should be close.
 

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turbojuiced;1008465 said:
BlackSS, Nice run 11sec runs are pretty impressive with just those mods. But then again that is the advantage of having a v8.

Thanks! There are a few more mods here and there that the video doesn't show. Only real power mods are the cam, longtube headers, full exhaust, ls6 intake manifold, and ported TB.

Other mods include 3.73 gears, DR's, 3400 stall converter, and line lock.
 

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Hmm. Those 3.73s seem to be holding up pretty well.

Who did you get to help with those? Bet it was one anal retentive bastard to get those gears quieter than your stockers ;)

And I see the smoke, but where's the burnout!?
 

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BlackSS;1008468 said:
lol, we'll see. Our boy here above us is saying a stripped, non-turbo KA24 240 was weighing in at 2500.....and the guy with the ls1 weight in at 2700.....should be close.

what? ok im sorry i didnt understand that. :biglaugh:
 

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turbojuiced;1009058 said:
what? ok im sorry i didnt understand that. :biglaugh:

The guy who has the friend with the 240 is saying a semi gutted non-turbo KA24 240 was 2500lbs, and that the LS1 swapped 240 weighed 2700 on an uncertified scale.
 

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BlackSS;1009231 said:
The guy who has the friend with the 240 is saying a semi gutted non-turbo KA24 240 was 2500lbs, and that the LS1 swapped 240 weighed 2700 on an uncertified scale.


Also with the LS1 car he has a heavy duty 2-way 300zx diff and 17x10.5 mustang rims in the back. Don't now how much more weight those things are over the stock diff and rims.
 

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BlackSS;1009231 said:
The guy who has the friend with the 240 is saying a semi gutted non-turbo KA24 240 was 2500lbs, and that the LS1 swapped 240 weighed 2700 on an uncertified scale.

K well there ya go the ls1 weighs approximately 200# more. However, since we have official links saying that the ls1 weighs about 100# more than a ka then that just also tells me that it indeed weighs more.
 

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BlackSS;1008475 said:
Thanks! There are a few more mods here and there that the video doesn't show. Only real power mods are the cam, longtube headers, full exhaust, ls6 intake manifold, and ported TB.

Other mods include 3.73 gears, DR's, 3400 stall converter, and line lock.

Your welcome, the stalls and dr's make a huge difference on your et's. Its amazing what those mods will do for muscle cars. I have a friend of mine with a z28 on similar mods make about the same et's as well. Its disguisting what little mods you have to do to make those things go fast in a straight line.

However, I got him all day on the twisties :biglaugh:
 

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My only comment, is that if you put toyota seats, a kia steering wheel, and a honda shift knob, in that 240 with the chevy engine, ford wheels, with the dodge paint colour... you'd have a serious car with the most halarious identity crisis ever.

That car is awesome.
 

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turbojuiced;1009515 said:
K well there ya go the ls1 weighs approximately 200# more. However, since we have official links saying that the ls1 weighs about 100# more than a ka then that just also tells me that it indeed weighs more.

.....You're still not understanding. A GUTTED (i.e. stripped out interior and other weight reduction) 240 with a NON TURBO'ED KA24 weighed in at 2500lbs. The car with the LS1 is full weight to my understanding and weighs 2700lbs. The 2500lb car is gutted AND has the non turbo version....therefore we can't really compare those two weights. The OP was making it clear that when he mentioned the 2500lb car is was a gutted car with a non turbo ka24....so it really can't be compared to his buddy's car since he didn't post a previous weight when he had the ka24 setup. So yes.....the guy's LS1 240 weighs 200lbs more than the other car. But....it has heavier wheels, has no weight reduction, has a beefier rear end, and the other car is a non turbo car (have to factor weight of manifold v. header, turbo, piping, intercooler, oil lines, etc.). So no....it's not a fair comparison. Which is why I'm still believing an LS1 240 will weigh slightly less than a comparable 240 with a KA24-T.
 

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BlackSS;1009580 said:
.....You're still not understanding. A GUTTED (i.e. stripped out interior and other weight reduction) 240 with a NON TURBO'ED KA24 weighed in at 2500lbs. The car with the LS1 is full weight to my understanding and weighs 2700lbs. The 2500lb car is gutted AND has the non turbo version....therefore we can't really compare those two weights. The OP was making it clear that when he mentioned the 2500lb car is was a gutted car with a non turbo ka24....so it really can't be compared to his buddy's car since he didn't post a previous weight when he had the ka24 setup. So yes.....the guy's LS1 240 weighs 200lbs more than the other car. But....it has heavier wheels, has no weight reduction, has a beefier rear end, and the other car is a non turbo car (have to factor weight of manifold v. header, turbo, piping, intercooler, oil lines, etc.). So no....it's not a fair comparison. Which is why I'm still believing an LS1 240 will weigh slightly less than a comparable 240 with a KA24-T.


O well you didnt tell me it was gutted however, since I dont know exactly what was changed or gutted I really cant tell either of the cars weights. So we will just leave it at the official links and according to them the ka24 weighs approximately 100# lighter. And your right its not a fair comparison but what is fair is the info provided by the official links so I will leave it up to you to either believe the facts or be in denial. Its up to you my friend. :biglaugh:
 

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reread post #61 and #65, I clearly stated that the car was gutted/stripped. Again...that's fine that a fully assembled KA24-t is somewhat lighter.....but does the weight include the turbo and extras that come along with it? The total package of swapping the LS1/T-56 combo will be the same/lighter weight than the KA24....that's what I'm arguing.
 

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BlackSS;1009801 said:
reread post #61 and #65, I clearly stated that the car was gutted/stripped. Again...that's fine that a fully assembled KA24-t is somewhat lighter.....but does the weight include the turbo and extras that come along with it? The total package of swapping the LS1/T-56 combo will be the same/lighter weight than the KA24....that's what I'm arguing.

Well regardless the official link says the ka24t version is 23# heavier than the NA verision so the ls1 is 75# heavier.
 

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I would love to have a LSx powered s14, IMO the perfect balance between weight and power. It is on the short list of cars that I would love to build and drive.
 

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I have thought about this combination for a long time. To the guy that said "just buy a vette", GL finding a decent vette for the cost of this car.
 

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MkIII_Jeff;1052665 said:
I have thought about this combination for a long time. To the guy that said "just buy a vette", GL finding a decent vette for the cost of this car.

An early C5 vette can be had for 15,000-20,000 (97-'00) with about 80K or so miles on the clock (nothing for the LS1 if properly maintained). That's a pretty good bargain if you ask me for a newer vette. Hell....I've even seen some '05-'06 GTO's go for around 18,000. Their just as fast as the vette as far as straight line performance is concerned.
 

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BlackSS;1052941 said:
An early C5 vette can be had for 15,000-20,000 (97-'00) with about 80K or so miles on the clock (nothing for the LS1 if properly maintained). That's a pretty good bargain if you ask me for a newer vette. Hell....I've even seen some '05-'06 GTO's go for around 18,000. Their just as fast as the vette as far as straight line performance is concerned.

So it is around 20k for the vette, but how much to build your own LS1 240?
 

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foreverpsycotic;1052985 said:
So it is around 20k for the vette, but how much to build your own LS1 240?

Too much to factor to get a good answer. His friend only has 6-8K in it. But.....if you build the LS1 you could throw that amount of money into the engine, heads, and cam alone. Not even getting into getting a 240, swap kit, custom work, and all the little odds and ends that come along with a project like this. If you want a project car/race car the 240/ls1 combo is sweet. But for something that's a "race car" and somewhat more reliable/newer, then go with the C5 vette.