Lets say I break into your house...

wingman

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destroying them is simply the cheapest, most economical way there is. The US has already found itself onto the shit lists of many other countries, the only people that would REALLY care would be the stuck up pricks at the UN and the humanitarian pussies that sit at home drinking thier wine coolers yakking on the phone all day to various organiztions for thier disgusting acts....but that's just politics I guess, there's no room for killing in the civilized world.

but it would also set an example. When enough would-be immigrants hear of the other's death they would be persuaded to go somewhere else or stay where they are, unless they see death as another means of escape.

I can honestly say I'd pull the trigger, even moreso if there were warning signs. They are invading the country, plain and simple, they are armed with the ability to sap money from our economy and infringe on my way of life, and that's more than enough firepower to make me want to take them out. Sad part is that we gave that to them. Taking the life of another human being is just like taking the life of an animal, I do not discriminate because were "civilized". That said I also don't hunt, but I will kill a mouse that found it's way into my cabinet. Selfish, yes, but I could care less.

...but then again I do things as efficiently as I can while attempting to remove all emotion in the process. That means solving the problem in the cheapest, quickest, most effective way possible...which in this case is sending a bullet into thier brain pan. Sure I may be a bit off, and I don't care if I'm called a monster. The kids back home can starve, I'll take a big mac please.
 

isnms

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Hey, anybody want to wait till that person here illegally with a forged driver license, no insurance and a $600 car, can't read our traffic signs plows his car into yours, loaded with your family and kills a few of your family members. They will just flee back to Mexico to cross our open borders again some other time, assume someone else's identity causing all kinds of credit problems for them that takes hours, months, years to clear. In the meantime they loose their credit, cars, house...

Who's it hurting anyway?
 

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wingman said:
destroying them is simply the cheapest, most economical way there is. The US has already found itself onto the shit lists of many other countries, the only people that would REALLY care would be the stuck up pricks at the UN and the humanitarian pussies that sit at home drinking thier wine coolers yakking on the phone all day to various organiztions for thier disgusting acts....but that's just politics I guess, there's no room for killing in the civilized world.

but it would also set an example. When enough would-be immigrants hear of the other's death they would be persuaded to go somewhere else or stay where they are, unless they see death as another means of escape.

I can honestly say I'd pull the trigger, even moreso if there were warning signs. They are invading the country, plain and simple, they are armed with the ability to sap money from our economy and infringe on my way of life, and that's more than enough firepower to make me want to take them out. Sad part is that we gave that to them. Taking the life of another human being is just like taking the life of an animal, I do not discriminate because were "civilized". That said I also don't hunt, but I will kill a mouse that found it's way into my cabinet. Selfish, yes, but I could care less.

...but then again I do things as efficiently as I can while attempting to remove all emotion in the process. That means solving the problem in the cheapest, quickest, most effective way possible...which in this case is sending a bullet into thier brain pan. Sure I may be a bit off, and I don't care if I'm called a monster. The kids back home can starve, I'll take a big mac please.

you sound like a real nice person and a fine human being...where do you live again?
 

isnms

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Supracentral said:
If these were people from Iraq or Afghanistan entering the country this way, I'd bet most people wouldn't think twice about it....

That is something that concerns me greatly too.
http://www.peoplesdefender.com/main.asp?SectionID=3&SubSectionID=3&ArticleID=123982&TM=38823.35
Wednesday September 13, 2006

In the last nine months, the United States government has captured 901,428 persons trying to cross the border. More than a million people will be caught this year alone. Unfortunately, estimates are that another million may have crossed the border undetected.

How many of those were not Mexicans "just trying to make a better life"?
 
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lanky189

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i can see someone's initial shock at the idea of a capitol punishment for border crossing...

a few issues to mention here:
Most border jumpers...men/boys...
the women and children stay home and receive the money

Lets also realize that most of the terrorist (if not all) of 9/11 came through Canada if I recall correctly. (I in no way have a problem with canada...I beleive it is a great Country and the Canadians I know are all top notch)

Killing another human being....not for everyone...if you don't want to kill people you don't join the military...if you don't want to shoot illegal immigrants you don't volunteer for the minutemen. Lots of people don't like hunting....but does that mean killing a deer shouldn't be allowed? They overpopulate, decimate crops and wildlife, cause car accidents and take lifes...the best way to manage Deer population and cut down on Vehicle and Deer collision and crops being destroyed? Hunting...

.....hmm..... Overpopulation...Wasting food....Hurting citizens...


strange how the similarities are.

I'm all for a huge wall..but a huge wall is nothing but a barrier to hop without gaurds patrolling it

IJ: the best thing to do with a home invader here is too start shooting while pointing at his knees and keep firing till he drops or your shooting through his head...dead men tell no tales.





also a sidenote.. kudos to those participating...we're all keeping our cool...i appreciate it.
 

willfish

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I put two in your chest and in one in your head. Same policy should be instituted at the border.

I second that, you break into my house, you can answer to my hollowed point for my 40 cal, as your dead on the ground.


Will
 

americanjebus

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I am walking into a minefield here but i dont care,

My parents were illegal immigrants 28 years ago, they came over in a car, got a job, worked long hard days and payed taxes. Bought a house, became citizens and had me. Never took government help, have middle class income and pay taxes out of the ass. We dont drive low riders, drink wine coolers, or wear sombreros while wiping up your shit. No one in my family has ever been unemployed, hell its rare to have less than 2 jobs at once. I am 19, a citizen, have two years of college, 3.8 gpa and work two jobs and spoke fluent english when i was 2 years old, 1 month later i spoke spanish. My point is, not everyone that comes over is the same.

I agree, some things are bullshit like people expecting you to speak spanish just because they do, having kids just for the welfare benefits, and demanding free healthcare. Those are my taxdollars too. But sometimes humans need help not starving.

I am gratefull for the opportunities my parents were offered from this country of actually having a chance of owning their own home and raising their two kids in what i call a VERY nice neighborhood (everyone is retired) But they did not get it for free.

To my point, and my rant to all of those who show extreme signs of intollerance, unless you are a native american indian that hunted buffalo with a tomahawk, you have no room to speak.

The house that you live in was earned by putting a bullet in the previous owners head. If you beleive so strongly in defending your home from someone that is trying to clean and maintain it, then i would assume that you would definatly agree with the native americans that tried so hard to put an arrow and a tomahawk in your face so many years before. They were here long before you were.

There is a reason there are terrorists that hate this country and the poeple in it, and generalize its citizens as inhumane cruel monsters out to destroy their religious ways. They see the actions suggested here in person, if we werent so trigger happy maybe me wouldnt have to worry about terrorism.

but times have changed, this country was founded over the dead bodies of those who were here before and we moved on. A new society has been created over it and new rules and people have prevailed, ok.

no matter what wall you build, these HUMANS ( though some honerable hard working people, and some bums) will find a way in the same way you would. If you looked at a wall, would you climb it or just go arround it?

The things you guys say carry a huge load behind them, be carefull what you post because those words go a long way both towards the people they are directed to and towards your own reputation and character.

-Luis (son of two illegal imigrants, and proud of what they have accomplished)
 
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lanky189

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I have a great deal of respect for your arguement...one thing i would like to say is that your parents came across the border through a border checkpoint..illegal as that may be...they out witted the border guards however long ago..before the turned into what it is now...times are different..

and the people who run the desert and don't come through the crossings are more of a problem...at least at the crossing we have numbers to go by...(number of immigrants not numbers like SS)

Secondly...My predecessors came on a boat..and that boat stopped at Ellis Island...also...I do have Indian heritage I guess what you had to say doesn't apply to me?
 

ChadMKIII

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americanjebus said:
My parents were illegal immigrants 28 years ago, they came over in a car, got a job, worked long hard days and payed taxes. Bought a house, became citizens and had me. Never took government help, have middle class income and pay taxes out of the ass. We dont drive low riders, drink wine coolers, or wear sombreros while wiping up your shit. No one in my family has ever been unemployed, hell its rare to have less than 2 jobs at once. I am 19, a citizen, have two years of college, 3.8 gpa and work two jobs and spoke fluent english when i was 2 years old, 1 month later i spoke spanish. My point is, not everyone that comes over is the same.
Jebus, your family is not the 'typical' illegal family in my experiences. Many come over, jump on welfare, have kids in gangs, don't even try to learn more than the minimum basic English they need to get thru daily life (some not even that) etc, etc. While it is good that your family worked hard and made a good living, that doesn't excuse the fact that they DID BREAK A LAW. Period. If people can't respect laws telling them to keep out, what makes people think they will respect the rest of our country's laws? There is a legal way to get into this country.

And I don't think anyone, even the guys in the UN, who actually drink wine coolers ;)

americanjebus said:
There is a reason there are terrorists that hate this country and the poeple in it, and generalize its citizens as inhumane cruel monsters out to destroy their religious ways. They see the actions suggested here in person, if we werent so trigger happy maybe me wouldnt have to worry about terrorism.
Where the HELL did you get that idea????
Dude, study a bit about Islam before you say half assed things.
The Qur'an SPECIFICALLY COMMANDS Muslims to KILL infadels who will not convert to Islam. All this BS about Islam being a peaceful religion is simply not true. They are killing us because the US supports Israel (the worst infadels in the eyes of a Muslim) and they perceive America to be a Christian nation. See, Islam is weird: you aren't guaranteed Paradise (their Heaven, so to speak) just for being a Muslim. You have to hope you were better that some of the other Muslims to make it in. But, for those who kill Jews and Christians, they are guaranteed instant entrance to Paradise, with 72 virgins waitin' in bed for 'em. Not a bad deal for killing people you've been trained to hate all your life anyway.

THEY ATTACKED US, ON OUR SOIL. WE DID NOTHING TO THEM. HOW DID WE PROVOKE THEM, TRY TO CHANGE THEIR WAYS? ANY IDEAS? LMK when you come up with one, if you can.

The US has never been trigger happy, we are one of the most restrained countries militaristicly speaking. We would've been attacked no matter what. Period.
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Anyway, back to the immigration point, if serious consequences are enforced, people will not risk it. The risk will outweigh the reward, and no one will try to cross. As a matter of fact, it may be MORE HUMANE to kill illegals in the deserts (provided there are obvious warning signs everywhere, in Spanish and English). Too many people die in the desert with no water. The answer is not to put out water tanks, its to prevent them from entering in the first place. Instead of having people try to make it and die, many each year, if a few are shot it would stop most people from even attempting, thus keeping them from risking dying in the desert from dehydration.

Just my 2/1000ths of 10 bucks.

BTW, I'm like 1/8th Cherokee Indian, or something like that.
 

bigaaron

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Most "Whiteys" wont work for below minimum wage, Alot of farmers around here only pay illegals $3-4 dollars an hour for picking fruit. I dont know how many people would want to work for below minimum wage.

So you are saying that it's ok for farmers to pay illegals less then the minimum wage because they are here illegally so why not take advantage of them? So because they work for shit money then it's cool that they are here huh?
 

JustAnotherVictim

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ChadMKIII said:
Dude, study a bit about Islam before you say half assed things.
The Qur'an SPECIFICALLY COMMANDS Muslims to KILL infadels who will not convert to Islam. All this BS about Islam being a peaceful religion is simply not true. They are killing us because the US supports Israel (the worst infadels in the eyes of a Muslim) and they perceive America to be a Christian nation. See, Islam is weird: you aren't guaranteed Paradise (their Heaven, so to speak) just for being a Muslim. You have to hope you were better that some of the other Muslims to make it in. But, for those who kill Jews and Christians, they are guaranteed instant entrance to Paradise, with 72 virgins waitin' in bed for 'em. Not a bad deal for killing people you've been trained to hate all your life anyway.
I gotta stop you there man.
What you're reffering to is radical Islam. There's a big difference I know quite a few people who follow Islam but do not wish to kill everyone who is not Islamic. However what you say does refer to radical Islamics.
 

IJ.

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Just about every religion has had a go!

My Father was Protestant Irish and tried the brainwashing hatred of Catholics thing while I was growing up but it had the effect of making me agnostic.

I can't really understand people that immigrate and bring their crap with them.