Learn me some HID knowledge

theKnifeArtist

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Doward;1144132 said:
Poodles, pics at night please :) I've never found a pic of HIDs in the Hella H4s. You're running the E-Code housings, right?

+1!

I have E-codes and that's what i'm using. None of this projector madness. I'm gonna have a bi-xenon H4 HID kit. The only question now is which one. When i read through these links, i'll hopefully find an answer.
 

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shaeff;1143896 said:
Yep, the crappy plastic (or glass) housings would not be to reflect the light, but only to house the REAL projector lens.

The FX35 projector housing is just that, the projector housing. The TSX lenses are better lenses for that projector, and fit right on.

You end up with a cutoff like this, while still having Bi-xenon:



The above is the retrofit I'm doing to my M3. :) (but I haven't started yet, that pic is using the hardware I'll be using)


hey what projectors are you using? i did a TSX projector w/ a 6000K hid well worth the trouble =D, that cut looks like the tsx iirc.

+1, nothing compares to a true projector lens vs the ecodes. my ecodes still have some wasted light on each side with the hids but have a nice cut to them compare to stock, the projectors have a clean cut all across.
 

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you're right, that nice cutoff with good projectors looks great, i'd love to have it. But i spent good money for these e-codes i've been using, so thats what i'm gonna be using with HIDs.
 

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Poodles;1145192 said:
And like I already mentioned, with good bulbs and wiring, a DOT lense has more glare than an HID in E-codes...

thats true, but arnt E-codes also DOT? or offroad use only? ive compare types of hids, and the 35watt hid is less annoying to in coming traffic, unless you want to be a jerk lol. get the 55watt.:evil2:
 

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arizzle;1145080 said:
hey what projectors are you using? i did a TSX projector w/ a 6000K hid well worth the trouble =D, that cut looks like the tsx iirc.

+1, nothing compares to a true projector lens vs the ecodes. my ecodes still have some wasted light on each side with the hids but have a nice cut to them compare to stock, the projectors have a clean cut all across.

That's not my setup, I'm still gathering parts for it. :) I'll be using Infinity FX35 projector housings (bi-xenon) with TSX lenses (better than even the clear fx35 lenses). I'll most likely make a custom shroud, too to produce the sharpest cutoff I possibly can. The above pic is called TFX (fx35 housings/tsx lenses).

I have HID's in my pickup, mounted in Hella E-code housings, and I'm going to get rid of them ASAP. I rarely drive the truck, and even more rarely at night, so currently it's not an issue. But I would feel terrible for oncoming traffic if I were to DD it. Even with the pattern aimed low, there's still a decent amount of glare.
 

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shaeff;1145263 said:
That's not my setup, I'm still gathering parts for it. :) I'll be using Infinity FX35 projector housings (bi-xenon) with TSX lenses (better than even the clear fx35 lenses). I'll most likely make a custom shroud, too to produce the sharpest cutoff I possibly can. The above pic is called TFX (fx35 housings/tsx lenses).

I have HID's in my pickup, mounted in Hella E-code housings, and I'm going to get rid of them ASAP. I rarely drive the truck, and even more rarely at night, so currently it's not an issue. But I would feel terrible for oncoming traffic if I were to DD it. Even with the pattern aimed low, there's still a decent amount of glare.

ahh nice! i wanted to do a FX35 PH but it's just to much! i got a hold of a pair of TSX PH (whole headlight!!) pair for 100 locally! so i jumped on them so fast, lol, and i went cheap on the housings DjAuto's :naughty: cause there wasnt any point in getting hella's when your not using the housings lol.
im just looking for a E46 bezel cause in the housing it looks odd.

but yeah my E-codes with HID's just to much but its ok for me im not the one looking at them :biglaugh::naughty::evil2: hahahah. but when it rains its like a blur of light at night! but on my E-codes i have this like round spot on the top on the light, its like a extra blare of light its weird. its right above the hella cut, do your E-codes have like a extra round light above the cut?:1zhelp:
 

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E-codes have a flare off to the right side to illuminate signs on the side of the road.

The E-codes are also technicly not DOT, but the european regulations are stricter...
 

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Poodles;1145485 said:
They really are that much better than the crap DOT style glare monsters...

haha yeah they shouldnt even be compared:3d_frown:
i really dont like the Ebay special housings that they just stick a projector lens to create a so called projector cut:nono:
lol.
 

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i was thinkign aobut doing some projectors but i am wondering a couple of things.

-do you just cut out with like a hole saw the old sealed beam and than fit the projector in?
-the wiring is it just like a normal bulb in a projector?(as in does a projector set up use a ballast box and all of that or no)
 

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arizzle;1145285 said:
ahh nice! i wanted to do a FX35 PH but it's just to much! i got a hold of a pair of TSX PH (whole headlight!!) pair for 100 locally! so i jumped on them so fast, lol, and i went cheap on the housings DjAuto's :naughty: cause there wasnt any point in getting hella's when your not using the housings lol.
im just looking for a E46 bezel cause in the housing it looks odd.

but yeah my E-codes with HID's just to much but its ok for me im not the one looking at them :biglaugh::naughty::evil2: hahahah. but when it rains its like a blur of light at night! but on my E-codes i have this like round spot on the top on the light, its like a extra blare of light its weird. its right above the hella cut, do your E-codes have like a extra round light above the cut?:1zhelp:

(this is not supra related, for those wondering)
Yeah, it's a bit expensive, but I figured I'll just do what I want the first time around. :) You got a hell of a deal!
I'll be using Depo GenIV's for the retrofit, or maybe apexcones. I don't like the look of the bezel style, so I'm going to drill the original glass lense from the housing. :)

Back to the Supra
Yes, the e-codes throw HID light off in odd directions, as with a normal incandescent filament type bulb, the filament bends down toward the ground when illuminated, and the reflector housing is designed around that.

A HID bulb arcs upward, thus doing the opposite of what the housing was designed for, and that's why you get the stray light when using HID's in a halogen reflector housing, and even in a halogen projector housing.

It does sound like you're referring to the slanted up/to the right upticks designed into the e-code housings, which Poodles covered in the post above. I personally hate those...