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PhiDelt109 said:
Hey Againstdawall, Hows it going, I think your the guy I gave my old accordion hose to on the River Road Cruise. One of you guys?

I'm kinda in the same boat. My car has had intermittent slight BHG for the last 2 years that I never could actually confirm until now. I have no idea what the previous owner did to the car, only that the Heads @ 85lbs and the coolant res. is stained from a previous bad BHG. My car is not my DD or even close but I have been fighting my way through allot of "classic" mk3 issues since I got the car, and of course the biggest hurdle of progress has been my wife's financial intelligence. I cleared all my issues and the car has been running smooth and strong for the last 2 months. Then all of the sudden my BHG symptoms got worse and I finally failed a block test, a little bit of oil smell in the coolant as well now. My internals are pretty damn rough looking. They have had a hard last 2 years and god only knows what before me.

I cannot for the life of me make up my mind. JDM+tweaking or rebuilding my 7m. I have been leaning toward the JDM route from a source out of Canada for around 900 shipped. They told me a good harness can be arranged and of course the Compression test. Not to mention all the extra components. Maybe we could go-in on a pair and cut the shipping down? Where or have you looked @ sourcing from?
~ James

jdmsource.ca. I got a quote for $1150cdn shipped to my door a few years ago.
 

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bountykilla0118 said:
Thats what i am saying :evil2: the weakest link is the owner not the motor hahahaha change the oil pump and check ya oil levels
For one, thats not even your quote^! And two thats not correct:umno: . you are flipping a coin when going JDM and sometimes you get screwed:cry: . And to all you guys "Beating the shit out of your JDMs for the past two years," you are in for a nasty surprise! I am rebulding my JDM GTE at the moment and it WAS RUNNING before I pulled it. Just cause a JDM is still running DOES NOT mean it is strong. If your JDM is handling 14psi consider yourself lucky, not a genius...IMO
 

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bountykilla0118 said:
Thats what i am saying :evil2: the weakest link is the owner not the motor hahahaha change the oil pump and check ya oil levels

so you're saying that Wendigo is the weak link in his situation? he turned the key, and he automatically caused the HG to blow, and the exhaust valve to snap? doubtful. there are so many variables to this equasion that it's ridiculous. i mean, seriously. think about it.

someone promises you a perfect 30k mile motor, you get all happy, thinking "oh, it's only got 30k on it, it's JUST broken in!" - and mod the crap out of it without doing any maintenance to it, then bang. "what happened!?"

that'd be the 20 year old, dry, brittle, rotted and squished headgasket blowing. or the 20 year old sediment causing your bearings to spin. what's that you say about the owner being the weakest link when it comes to JDM motors? i suppose so if they slap it in and go.

which, if it makes any difference to you- i did that. i got my motor, bought all the parts i needed to make it function, and slapped it in. this was only to make sure i got to run the motor before the warranty ran out. less than a year later, i pulled it out and ripped it apart.

-shaeff
 

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87Superdupra said:
For one, thats not even your quote^! And two thats not correct:umno: . you are flipping a coin when going JDM and sometimes you get screwed:cry: . And to all you guys "Beating the shit out of your JDMs for the past two years," you are in for a nasty surprise! I am rebulding my JDM GTE at the moment and it WAS RUNNING before I pulled it. Just cause a JDM is still running DOES NOT mean it is strong. If your JDM is handling 14psi consider yourself lucky, not a genius...IMO

Woooowwwww why are u trying to bash me? Well let me clear this up Nick M has that quote on a lot of his post ……. AND FOR EVERYONE THAT DOES NOT KNOW THAT I AM SOOOOO SORRY THAT I FAILED TO PUT IN QUOTATION MARKS AND GIVE CREDIT TO THE AUTHOR ... NICK M. So please tell Superdupra not to fail me because I did not have my work cited page and i am soooo sorry if i happened to offend anyone .... is that better Superdupra????? Its funny how people talk for others i am sure if he had an issue with me using his words he would let it be known. How old are u 10???Also i never once claimed to be a genius nor have i put anyone down. Maybe if you were not so biased and try to over stand(think outside of your box) a little bit you would clearly see that i was just saying that most of the issues people have with the 7m are not because the motor just gets up and decides to failed its b/c the owner failed to do the little things thats all. For those of you that dont know that a new product is normally better than a product that has been used ..... HERE IT GOES Kodak moment :naughty: ....... New > Used ALWAYS.
 

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shaeff said:
so you're saying that Wendigo is the weak link in his situation? he turned the key, and he automatically caused the HG to blow, and the exhaust valve to snap? doubtful. there are so many variables to this equasion that it's ridiculous. i mean, seriously. think about it.

someone promises you a perfect 30k mile motor, you get all happy, thinking "oh, it's only got 30k on it, it's JUST broken in!" - and mod the crap out of it without doing any maintenance to it, then bang. "what happened!?"

that'd be the 20 year old, dry, brittle, rotted and squished headgasket blowing. or the 20 year old sediment causing your bearings to spin. what's that you say about the owner being the weakest link when it comes to JDM motors? i suppose so if they slap it in and go.

which, if it makes any difference to you- i did that. i got my motor, bought all the parts i needed to make it function, and slapped it in. this was only to make sure i got to run the motor before the warranty ran out. less than a year later, i pulled it out and ripped it apart.

-shaeff


I respect u alot(man i love reading about your rust bucket) you have lot of useful knowledge along with IJ and Dr J and a bunch of other people ....... And u hit the nail right on the head on those points and i think that was the best description of what i comprehend/over stand when i read the words " the weakest link in the 7m is the owner” i stole that from Nick M ….. Was that better Superdupra?? Whos fault is it that all that happened the owner or the motor??? The guys i deal with at NAD and Best Jap Motors in the atl change the head gasket and tq it 65lbs and i tq'ed myself to 75lbs, then change the oil pump and change all the major seal minus the cam seals:naughty: ..... You should never believe everything that you hear and believe 50% of what you read b/c if you assume that everyone has the right answer it will be like the blind leading the blind. Hopefully everyone who does by a JDM they buy them from people who keep their word and actually change the head gasket
 
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PhiDelt109 said:
Hey Againstdawall, Hows it going, I think your the guy I gave my old accordion hose to on the River Road Cruise. One of you guys?

I'm kinda in the same boat. My car has had intermittent slight BHG for the last 2 years that I never could actually confirm until now. I have no idea what the previous owner did to the car, only that the Heads @ 85lbs and the coolant res. is stained from a previous bad BHG. My car is not my DD or even close but I have been fighting my way through allot of "classic" mk3 issues since I got the car, and of course the biggest hurdle of progress has been my wife's financial intelligence. I cleared all my issues and the car has been running smooth and strong for the last 2 months. Then all of the sudden my BHG symptoms got worse and I finally failed a block test, a little bit of oil smell in the coolant as well now. My internals are pretty damn rough looking. They have had a hard last 2 years and god only knows what before me.

I cannot for the life of me make up my mind. JDM+tweaking or rebuilding my 7m. I have been leaning toward the JDM route from a source out of Canada for around 900 shipped. They told me a good harness can be arranged and of course the Compression test. Not to mention all the extra components. Maybe we could go-in on a pair and cut the shipping down? Where or have you looked @ sourcing from?
~ James


All you have is BHG? No knocking? Just rebuild it for you do the labor yourself it can be pretty cheap ..... If not you can save your self a bit of time and money with decent JDM motor granted you change a few things but for a stock rebuild ......

Give or take (+/-)
300 for head and block work(price varies on warpage and)
200 for a gasket set
150 oil pump
70 bearings
70 rings
anything i am leaving off?
 

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bountykilla0118 said:
All you have is BHG? No knocking? Just rebuild it for you do the labor yourself it can be pretty cheap .....

I only wish it was that easy of a decision. Just to name a few, I have the loudest head you've ever heard, what seems to be a slight knock and the wiring harness is down-right scary.
Still not 100 % what I'm going to do.
I was under the impression that the machine shop would be more expensive than 300ish?
 

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no, $3000, and dependable qouted me $2000 for everything except the crank and rods. including labor, machining, pistons, rings, gaskets, ect. i figured about $1000 for stock spec crank and rods.
 

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bountykilla0118 said:
Woooowwwww why are u trying to bash me? Well let me clear this up Nick M has that quote on a lot of his post ……. AND FOR EVERYONE THAT DOES NOT KNOW THAT I AM SOOOOO SORRY THAT I FAILED TO PUT IN QUOTATION MARKS AND GIVE CREDIT TO THE AUTHOR ... NICK M. So please tell Superdupra not to fail me because I did not have my work cited page and i am soooo sorry if i happened to offend anyone .... is that better Superdupra????? Its funny how people talk for others i am sure if he had an issue with me using his words he would let it be known. How old are u 10???Also i never once claimed to be a genius nor have i put anyone down. Maybe if you were not so biased and try to over stand(think outside of your box) a little bit you would clearly see that i was just saying that most of the issues people have with the 7m are not because the motor just gets up and decides to failed its b/c the owner failed to do the little things thats all. For those of you that dont know that a new product is normally better than a product that has been used ..... HERE IT GOES Kodak moment :naughty: ....... New > Used ALWAYS.
Ur right man I'm 10 & have been pretending to own a sup with a JDM 7M, also have been pretending to know about the problems associated with it.:icon_bigg sorry I pissed you off, I was reffering to tig123 having a cracked block and then ur comment coming after. mistake obviousley. sry bout comment, tried to beat the shit out of JDM7M lasted 3 months before several burned valves and leaks...everywhere. In my case goin Jdm was the weak point for me... sry no bad blood but JDM 7m owners that handle 14psi are fuckin LUCKY.
 

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againstdawall06 said:
no, $3000, and dependable qouted me $2000 for everything except the crank and rods. including labor, machining, pistons, rings, gaskets, ect. i figured about $1000 for stock spec crank and rods.

I think he was reffering to the milling, decking, I wouldn't need new pistons ETC. Just to have my block and head checked and cut flat. I could handle the rest..... I think.
 

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bountykilla0118 said:
Woooowwwww why are u trying to bash me? Well let me clear this up Nick M has that quote on a lot of his post ……. AND FOR EVERYONE THAT DOES NOT KNOW THAT I AM SOOOOO SORRY THAT I FAILED TO PUT IN QUOTATION MARKS AND GIVE CREDIT TO THE AUTHOR ... NICK M. So please tell Superdupra not to fail me because I did not have my work cited page and i am soooo sorry if i happened to offend anyone .... is that better Superdupra????? Its funny how people talk for others i am sure if he had an issue with me using his words he would let it be known. How old are u 10???Also i never once claimed to be a genius nor have i put anyone down. Maybe if you were not so biased and try to over stand(think outside of your box) a little bit you would clearly see that i was just saying that most of the issues people have with the 7m are not because the motor just gets up and decides to failed its b/c the owner failed to do the little things thats all. For those of you that dont know that a new product is normally better than a product that has been used ..... HERE IT GOES Kodak moment :naughty: ....... New > Used ALWAYS.
Yes I'm ten which means I was 7 when I started working shitty jobs to save for my first sup, then got my second at fuckin 9 years old . I TAKE BLAME for this SRY i bashed, mistaked your cmt cause it came after tig123's . DROP IT. I know my experience with boosting a JDM 7m was bad END/
 

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87Superdupra said:
Yes I'm ten which means I was 7 when I started working shitty jobs to save for my first sup, then got my second at fuckin 9 years old . I TAKE BLAME for this SRY i bashed, mistaked your cmt cause it came after tig123's . DROP IT. I know my experience with boosting a JDM 7m was bad END/

::fundy:: no harm done:drink1:
 

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bountykilla0118 said:
All you have is BHG? No knocking? Just rebuild it for you do the labor yourself it can be pretty cheap ..... If not you can save your self a bit of time and money with decent JDM motor granted you change a few things but for a stock rebuild ......

Give or take (+/-)
300 for head and block work(price varies on warpage and)
200 for a gasket set
150 oil pump
70 bearings
70 rings
anything i am leaving off?

man its gonna cost more than that. Mine cost just over $3000cdn stock rebuild with metal HG and arps. doing it properly anyway. this is a jdm engine too
 

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TurboWarrior said:
man its gonna cost more than that. Mine cost just over $3000cdn stock rebuild with metal HG and arps. doing it properly anyway. this is a jdm engine too

Did u do the work yourself? If not break down parts and labor. Define the "proper way" please. I assume you mean cryo treats rods or forged internals which i doubt since you said a stock rebuild, FACTORY valve kit, blue-printed and balanced if so then i can see $3000 worth but thats with everything NEW and from toyota and also having them do the work .......
 
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I pulled the motor. just block and head. Block machine, Head Machine, Crank polish, Helicoil for exhaust studs, cleaned pistons. I did everything except dissassemble the block This cost is with parts that i ordered myself. crank polishing had to be done this is all stuff that HAD to be done. and I used toyota bearings which was $220cdn. You should use anything else unless they happen to match up with the specs you need.
 

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Does anyone else think that 3000 for stock rebuild is waaayyyy to much .... or am i the one that is off?? From what i remember ........

MHG -$200
Gasket Kit $200
Piston Rings 70
Oil Pump $150-200
Rod Bearings- $30-50
Main Bearings $40-60
Arp head bolts $100
Valves 3 angle w new stems $300
Have block resurfaced $60
Head Resurfaced $60

And to be on the safe side ..... 1500 bucks
 
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ill get my bills out tonight and post it. it sounded like it was only going to cost like 2gs in the beginning. but theres always more to the story. I think it would have been $400 less if i used stock hg and stock headbolts. I could have used the stocker HG from the kit. anyway ill break it down tonight

EDIT it would have been almost 800 more if he had to bore out the cylinders which im reaaaly glad he didn't have to do.
 

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TurboWarrior said:
ill get my bills out tonight and post it. it sounded like it was only going to cost like 2gs in the beginning. but theres always more to the story. I think it would have been $400 less if i used stock hg and stock headbolts. I could have used the stocker HG from the kit. anyway ill break it down tonight

EDIT it would have been almost 800 more if he had to bore out the cylinders which im reaaaly glad he didn't have to do.


Ya please do that ...... sounds like u got raped. You should have went forged all the way with that type of money :stickpoke
 

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I wish i could have done everything myself but i don't have the tools, time, or space to disassemble the block myself. You got me interested in my grand total now... Ill let you know.
 
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