gaboonviper85;1498891 said:
haha it hasnt been on craigslist in over a year.
he had my 7m swapped in and ready to go for $800 (labor)
Ive just about had enough.
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haha it hasnt been on craigslist in over a year.
he had my 7m swapped in and ready to go for $800 (labor)
supraGhost;1498912 said:
Same internals as a gtte just higher comp and no squirters....so pretty much the same as a turbo 2j as it's all in the tune....although you'll be limited on power on pump gas as detionation is a problem in higher comp engines but that's why god made meth injection and race gas
gaboonviper85;1498930 said:Same internals as a gtte just higher comp and no squirters....so pretty much the same as a turbo 2j as it's all in the tune....although you'll be limited on power on pump gas as detionation is a problem in higher comp engines but that's why god made meth injection and race gas
what compression ratios are we talking? is it worth putting a spacer in?
and i actually have no idea what i would need to tune it
supraGhost;1498934 said:
You could run the engine on 7mgte electronics for the most part therefore any piggyback that we use will work but not for big power....you'd want a standalone if you were serious about making horsepower...tuning this engine is just like tuning a 7m...
But again if raw stupid amounts of power is your goal then a 2jzge isn't a good choice...2jzgte is the engine I'd go with for safe measure.
Spacer? You mean a thicker headgasket? Yeah it's a smart move but lower comp pistons is an even better idea...compression ratio is similar to a non turbo 7m 9.4:1 I believe? Hell I don't know I just know it's higher and higher compression and boost don't get along generally.
supraGhost;1498934 said:
The differences between the 2jzge and 2jzgte can be read here:
The bible - http://forum.clubna-t.com/showthread.php?t=10
http://forum.clubna-t.com/showthread.php?t=2765
http://forum.clubna-t.com/showthread.php?t=594
The compression is around 10:1 on a stock 2jzge. The pistons are different and the gte has a 12-point distro system and oil squirters. The ge bottom end will easily do 400-500 reliably with supporting mods without a second thought.
I suggest getting a 2.0mm MHG and make sure you measure the CC's on the combustion chamber dishes in the head with liquid to help measure out your
compression ratio with each size MHG.
I still say go 2jzge-t! lol Sorry, just drove home from work and probably missed a bit...
A full long block 2jzge will run you $300-400. I bought two for $600, plus a shit-ton of parts. Which I still have laying around... lol
MAKE SURE TO GET A REAR SUMP OIL PAN! Usually out of the SC300 and IS300 iirc. I bought the first 2jz and it was a GS300, which has slightly taller valve covers and a mid-sump oil pan which will not fit our cross member. Then I bought the second one, which had the rear-sump. Buy the rear-sump setup alone is $250-300 depending on who its from, but I found a full long block 2jzge with a rear-sump for $300 and said screw it.
I no longer have these motors, but I do have intake manifolds, injectors, PS pump, valve covers, 2jzge exhaust manifolds with perfect O2 sensors on them, and some other random stuff.
MAKE SURE TO GET A REAR SUMP OIL PAN! Usually out of the SC300 and IS300 iirc. I bought the first 2jz and it was a GS300, which has slightly taller valve covers and a mid-sump oil pan which will not fit our cross member. Then I bought the second one, which had the rear-sump. Buy the rear-sump setup alone is $250-300 depending on who its from, but I found a full long block 2jzge with a rear-sump for $300 and said screw it.
I no longer have these motors, but I do have intake manifolds, injectors, PS pump, valve covers, 2jzge exhaust manifolds with perfect O2 sensors on them, and some other random stuff.
Cut your losses and let her go. You already see how much this car has costed you in the last couple of years. It only get worse from here on out. Unless you have deep pockets to do things "the right way" then I wouldn't continue the punishment. You said it yourself, you really don't have the money to do anything with it. Part it out, or sell as is. You'll thank youself later. Good luck.
Suprapowaz!(2);1499053 said:
Wow you should be a motivational speaker for a suicide hotline....:3d_frown:
Suprapowaz!(2);1499053 said:
It doesn't take much to do it right. Things can be purchased at good prices depending on where you look or how you decide to go about it. I'm not saying it's cheap, but I am saying that I am doing it while paying rent and only making $14/hr. Granted, it took me a month or two, but it can be done. He just has to decide whether to go one path, or the other. One may take more money, but he apparently loves the car enough to have kept it this long. The other path will mean he gains some cash. But what will he fill the void the supra will leave with? lol Then again, that just may be my own void talking after I got rid of mine and bought another a month later. :love:
Nghty89;1499076 said:
well ive been looking for is300's but i dunno.... its just not quite a supra:icon_bigg
is it worth pulling the 2jzge apart just to put the thicker headgasket in if im only looking for around 350whp? or is a headgasket replacement a must on 2jz's like the 7m
supraGhost;1499195 said:
its only replaced to lower compression, ive been planning on going na-t for the past month or so, so ive just been researching if your really serious about doing it theres quite a few build threads on here such as hottscotthennessey, doks and more. if youve really had it with the supra lmk how much u want for her because ive been looking for a clean shell for quite somtime.
supraGhost;1499195 said:
Change the gasket, that way once you realize what that power level feels like on the 2jz, you can go higher. TRUST ME. You'll want the comfort. Do it once, do it right. Have the blocked cleaned out, decked, clean the head, have it machined, new bearings, ARP head studs, a 2.0mm or so (depends on clearances and how much is machined) MHG, all new engine gaskets, and you have yourself a beautiful thing. :love: And it doesn't cost too much either. I paid $600 total in machining/cleaning costs, and around $400 for the engine gasket set, MHG, and ARP head studs. All in all, great for a motor that will do 500 easy. With supporting mods of course.
2JZGE will do that power nicely. There is a lot of info on using the 7M electronics for that swap. Do it right, do it once, and enjoy your Supra for many years to come.
is the is300 2jz the same as the sc300 and supra na 2jz?
cause if going na-t is that easy, i might just go that route with an is.
cause if going na-t is that easy, i might just go that route with an is.