cuel said:
Ehhh...u should read up a little better on Hondas first.
I have seen a handful of Hondas with a BHG. Supras?-100s upon 100s
Hondas have excellent oil systems, no need to shim the pump or any of that crap..and theres pleanty of guys running stock oil pumps on HUGE hp builds.
I dont think ive ever heard of an instance of floating sleeves..the sleeves will crack before they float. Which is very common on a bad tune or improper clearances.
Really the only problem some face is just the head lifting, which is fixed by installing headstuds and a STOCK headgasket(yes almost all stock Honda HGs are MLS and they only cost $45 from a parts store)
Ok you can float the sleeves if you have some serious ass HP on stock sleeves. The fix for this is to get a set of $900 sleeves installed..Then your block with be almost bullet proof, and you can bore it out to 84mm(from stock 81)and then you have a 2.0 liter engine when you started with a 1.8.
-Oh and actually, block guards are pretty much useless in Honda motors...Research has shown they do not support the sleeves any better than with no blockguard. Only blockguards that really work well are ones that are custom made and press-fit into the open deck.(to basically make a closed deck)
-12 second 1/4 mile is easy in a Civic hatchback...Its called K20..out of an RSX-S. That can also be had with full interior, normal street suspension and probably drag radials NOT SLICKS. So these cars can also be driven everyday.
Of course....that is about a $6000 swap but its worth every penny. Heres an example
646.90whp / 522.40tq @ 7600rpm GT35R K24 block/stock K20A2 head (11.2 @ 125)
-You think stock honda motors cant handle 12second runs?? GTFO
Go to honda-tech and look around in the forced induction forum. There is a thread in there for the higest HP STOCK BLOCK Hondas. Actually, here you go http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1478127
630whp on a stock B16 bottom end.
Some of them have the times next to them.
7Ms or 1jzs cant do that i dont believe.
Really its dumb to argue that Supras are better than Hondas. They are 2 completely different cars on different ends of the spectrum. Ok yea the supra is comfy and very nice to drive on the highway or on longer trips. But you dont have to completely strip out the interior to make a Honda fast..Stock seats,carpet spare tire/tools and the sound deadening is really no more than 250 lbs. in most cases..Basically not even worth it. And no you dont have to put skinny tires in the back to make them go down the track either..
Oh and whoever said Hondas dont handle better than the supra needs to pull their head out of their ass. Ever heard of the ITR? CTR? S2000? NSX? All would rape an mk3 on a twisty track.
I took my civic and my supra out on 2 occasions under the same conditions on the same road and while the supra may accelerate faster..my fat ass civic coupe ex (weighs 2650 with me in it and a full tank of gas) can carry more speed thru the turns with less body roll and i dont ever have the feeling every other second that the back end is about to slide out on me like the supra feels. Might have something to do with a my supra being a targa model.
You really cant argue about which is better..Each serves their own purpose in life..Which is why i have both. So stop ur hating and dont be a troll.
Oh ya...Check out these sleepers http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147827
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