homemade ffim?
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wow.... lotsa ffim talk lately, you have 1 spare? heheh if your doing it yourself you will need 2 or 3 trust me:biglaugh: i practiced tig on aluminum for days strait and still messed up quite badly, but if your up to the challenge go for it. its worth it in the end, i am very proud of mine:icon_bigg. you will also need a spare head to bolt it to alluminum warps very badly
anyway i am blocking off the stock tb location, cutting off a piece of one side, then welding a section to accomodate for the new tb location. its cheap and easy so give it a try 
There would be alot involved. Of course you will need a way to weld aluminium, and some basic handyman type skills. It won't be easy and will cover your work area with aluminuim dust, and will likely leave you scratching your head on many occations.If you don't already have most of what you need your probably better off buying one already made. I'm not trying to discourage you in any way, that's just my opinion.Clip said:
Here are a few links
http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33040&highlight=shipping
http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4342&highlight=ffim
[URL="http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26727"]http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246[/URL]
and of course this one
http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6519&highlight=ffim
here are a couple for TB options
http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6519&highlight=ffim
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=321855
There more threads out there, but no HOW TO threads. At least none I have seen
Good Luck
thanks for the info guys.
ive got the basic skills. can i weld aluminum with a light mig setup?
and for the record, im running NA so this will not be used. its just something to test my skills; to see if i can make one.
as for the aluminum warping, i can take it easy on the heat by just stitch welding it together, can't i?
boost, where'd you get the rest of the aluminum stock for that, and howd you get it shaped so nicely?
ive got the basic skills. can i weld aluminum with a light mig setup?
and for the record, im running NA so this will not be used. its just something to test my skills; to see if i can make one.
as for the aluminum warping, i can take it easy on the heat by just stitch welding it together, can't i?
boost, where'd you get the rest of the aluminum stock for that, and howd you get it shaped so nicely?
Spool guns used w/ MIGs are apparently not very good.
But for something as CRITICAL as sealing is concerned, I wouldn't even mess with making a manifold.
The learning experience is EXCELLENT, however I wouldn't USE the manifold unless pressure tested.
But for something as CRITICAL as sealing is concerned, I wouldn't even mess with making a manifold.
The learning experience is EXCELLENT, however I wouldn't USE the manifold unless pressure tested.
buckshotglass
I love all your sounds.
If it looks real nice, and it pressuretests ok, I will test it out for you for a few years, as long as I can keep my ac. deal?:aigo:
you will need to tig... and there is NO way to keep the aluminum from warping but you are mostly concerned about the flange which is why you need it bolted down while welding.... i got the aluminum at a local metals store its easy to find, you just need all the proper tools, saws, sanders, grinders, ETC. Take your time and do not get frustrated, learn to use the tig well before starting, the most important thing is clearance, ALL your cuts must be strait and meet up nicely, it is next to impossible to fill a hole with aluminum.
as for pressure testing, just double check all your welds, i can assure you mine does not leak, and i have put it through A LOT of "pressure testing":biglaugh:
and no offense but it is the naysayers that never win, the ones that say they would never use a part they created, where does that get you? my car was built 100% by me with help from friends here and there, but when i go to the track and have people ask where i got my manifold, i proudly tell them i built it, and when someone with a 9 second VW is SO impressed he wants me to help him build a roll cage, you start to really feel good about yourself. ..... ANYONE can spend money on a car and make it fast you can pay someone 10,000$ and come out with a 12 second car or you can do it yourself and take pride your work, and know what the HELL you are talking about when i ask you quistions (neighbor with 10 sec civic that cannot tell me specs of turbo or install his own downpipe) WHO DO YOU WANT TO BE? END RANT
but do it for yourself, if anything you will have newly aquired skills and respect, you can only gain from trying.
as for pressure testing, just double check all your welds, i can assure you mine does not leak, and i have put it through A LOT of "pressure testing":biglaugh:
and no offense but it is the naysayers that never win, the ones that say they would never use a part they created, where does that get you? my car was built 100% by me with help from friends here and there, but when i go to the track and have people ask where i got my manifold, i proudly tell them i built it, and when someone with a 9 second VW is SO impressed he wants me to help him build a roll cage, you start to really feel good about yourself. ..... ANYONE can spend money on a car and make it fast you can pay someone 10,000$ and come out with a 12 second car or you can do it yourself and take pride your work, and know what the HELL you are talking about when i ask you quistions (neighbor with 10 sec civic that cannot tell me specs of turbo or install his own downpipe) WHO DO YOU WANT TO BE? END RANT
but do it for yourself, if anything you will have newly aquired skills and respect, you can only gain from trying.
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I have a Lincoln 135T (110Volts) that I use all the time for steel. I was told there is an aluminum "kit" for it that uses a different liner for the gun and I would be able to use that for migging aluminum. Any thoughts or experience on this.
From what friends have told me you will need closer to 200 amps to weld aluminum as thick as the flange on this project. A 135 amp mig welder would probably only work for thin tubing or aluminum sheet.
I welded mine with my mig and an "aluminum kit", worked good. But I practiced for a while on the aluminum I had left over. I did take the mani into a local fab shop to have the runners tig welded on, as it is not easy to get a good bead with a mig in tight spots like that. When I pressure tested it the welds that leaked were the ones the shop tig'd. So I had to "touch up" some of their welds with my mig. All in all, it was a pain in the ass, but I got the mani I wanted, the way I wanted it.
That's a nice manifold you made there . the plate that you used the conect the stock runners to the new AL mani, did you have that machined so it looks like it does in the pic (plate slopes down into the old runners)? And the new upper AL mani, did you have that shaped yourself, or did you buy that somewheres?
. the plate that you used the conect the stock runners to the new AL mani, did you have that machined so it looks like it does in the pic (plate slopes down into the old runners)? And the new upper AL mani, did you have that shaped yourself, or did you buy that somewheres?
Thanks,
Yep I machined, cut and formed all the aluminum myself There are 7 pieces that make up the mani, not including the runners. And yes the "plate" is rounded over like velocity stacks, to smooth out the air flow entering the runners.
Yep I machined, cut and formed all the aluminum myself
There are 7 pieces that make up the mani, not including the runners. And yes the "plate" is rounded over like velocity stacks, to smooth out the air flow entering the runners.