high powered NA!

[Tanya]

all this talk of NA tuning is making wanna barf

Why bother reading the thread if it makes you ill? :icon_conf

People are different, accept it. We want different things, I certainly wouldn't try to dissuade others from going turbo if that's their thing, just give the best advice possible or keep my mouth shut.

I dont want to go turbo for a number of reasons;
simply don't know enough about it, don't want more extra stuff that could break, don't need crapload of HP, etc... for me, my goals are 180whp and somewhere in 14 second 1/4 mile and I'm content. Not everyone want's a 400whp sub 13 second car.

 

[SupraJDS]

"TURBO LAG IS LIKE FOREPLAY IT MAKES THE EXPIRIENCE HARDER, BETTER, AND LOUDER" - ahahah, thats going in my sig.

 

[K Spec]

Why bother reading the thread if it makes you ill? :icon_conf

People are different, accept it. We want different things, I certainly wouldn't try to dissuade others from going turbo if that's their thing, just give the best advice possible or keep my mouth shut.

I dont want to go turbo for a number of reasons;
simply don't know enough about it, don't want more extra stuff that could break, don't need crapload of HP, etc... for me, my goals are 180whp and somewhere in 14 second 1/4 mile and I'm content. Not everyone want's a 400whp sub 13 second car.

Well, I'm glad to find someone on this forum, who has a goal, other than getting from one end of a straight line to the other, as quickly as possible. The Supra was designed to be a performance car not a big power car.

 

[Nick M]

Why bother reading the thread if it makes you ill? :icon_conf

People are different, accept it. We want different things, I certainly wouldn't try to dissuade others from going turbo if that's their thing, just give the best advice possible or keep my mouth shut.

I dont want to go turbo for a number of reasons;
simply don't know enough about it, don't want more extra stuff that could break, don't need crapload of HP, etc... for me, my goals are 180whp and somewhere in 14 second 1/4 mile and I'm content. Not everyone want's a 400whp sub 13 second car.

And since your car isn't a portly pig, you can get away with a lower output motor and still run good.

 

[Big Wang Bandit]

Why bother reading the thread if it makes you ill? :icon_conf

People are different, accept it. We want different things, I certainly wouldn't try to dissuade others from going turbo if that's their thing, just give the best advice possible or keep my mouth shut.

I dont want to go turbo for a number of reasons;
simply don't know enough about it, don't want more extra stuff that could break, don't need crapload of HP, etc... for me, my goals are 180whp and somewhere in 14 second 1/4 mile and I'm content. Not everyone want's a 400whp sub 13 second car.

Amen! I like having somthing simple for now. Then when im outta school I can probably afford to complicate things a bit!

 

[PROJECT N00b]

did you say 180? because the supra is 200 stock...yeah but maybe your not talking about the supra. yeah.

 

[Tanya]

did you say 180? because the supra is 200 stock...yeah but maybe your not talking about the supra. yeah.

I was referring to myself, a mkII owner with a measly 160hp 5MGE.
I dyno'd 132whp stock, and 144whp with a header/exhaust. Haven't dyno'd with the ceramic coated intake yet. Planning on upgrading soon to a 70+mm throttle body as soon as I can get one, and an extra intake plenum to mess around with.

And since your car isn't a portly pig, you can get away with a lower output motor and still run good.

True, however the 7MGE is obviously bigger in displacement with a "better" flowing head, so assuming you do lightening mods, a "high hp" n/a mkIII should run decently too. Wouldn't expect a full weight targa automatic car to run worth a damn.

 

[DEFIANT 7M]

all this talk of NA tuning is making wanna barf, if ya want a "powerful" NA buy a trans am or a vette, and I can't believe I heard a member of this forum actually say "I don't wanna have to go turbo" WTF my ears are still bleeding from that, doesn't want the lag, well build a good turbo setup with a medium sized quick spooling turbo, besides lag is only for 1st and maybe part of 2nd gear anyways so get over it the power it makes is worth the wait..

"TURBO LAG IS LIKE FOREPLAY IT MAKES THE EXPIRIENCE HARDER, BETTER, AND LOUDER"

I guess you need to get a "BIG Barf Bag". A Trans Am or a Vette:3d_frown: I would not waste my money! Nice cars but not my thing. Replies like this really show how close minded three letters can make you (GTE )

 

[PROJECT N00b]

lol. and thanks for clearing that up, i didnt know you had a MKii. thanks and good luck with your 180 HP goal.

 

[Jspec7m88]

damn...i just want the damn response and no lag. i know there are forums about this, but thats all i ask for! hehe.

If this is the case, get a V8.:icon_bigg LOL
No, if you no wanty no laggy, Ballbearing is pretty minimal lag(depending on what hairdryder is strapped on)...
Heck, My 60-1 CT is clipped 10 degrees and althought there is "some" lag...it's nothing worth :cry: about...I :love: It!!!

 

[TRACKMKIII]

I thought we created the N/A setion to stop all of the N/A bashing!! Not trying to be an asshole but if you don't have any advice or pointers besides "You need a turbo" when someone asks about making more power while staying N/A dont post in the thread after all this is the N/A section, its not like he asked the question in the turbo section. Anyway N/A guys keep your heads up!! I just got my ported and polished head and intake manifold back on Friday and my freshly rebuilt short block is waiting for all of the other misc. performance parts!! I will start removing the old engine on monday and I hope to have the new one in by next Sunday, then I will do a few weeks of break in driving and off to the dyno!! I believe 240-260 rwhp :naughty:

 

[PROJECT N00b]

we need more people like this! anyways if you look at the pictures of the NA post, all of them are nice and clean. xP

 

[Jspec7m88]

Hey, All show and love from me. I was looking at the "last posted" on the main page and saw this thread and it interested me. NOTHING wrong with an N/A...I'd just like to see one built so that I can show some losers around here that a Supra doesn't have to be Turbo to be fast and it will STILL beat their Civic, you know what I mean?

 

[Fuzz420]

Hey, All show and love from me. I was looking at the "last posted" on the main page and saw this thread and it interested me. NOTHING wrong with an N/A...I'd just like to see one built so that I can show some losers around here that a Supra doesn't have to be Turbo to be fast and it will STILL beat their Civic, you know what I mean?

Im not even built, but i dont even race civics nemore, no fun

 

[Jervis Mcstabby]

Not true. There are lots of upgrades you can do.

12psi? Where did you get that number? I have seen many engines that are "not supposed to be boosted" hold plenty of boost and HP. Its all in the tune.

It's an average number that I got from different MK3s. I also never said you couldn't upgrade the N/A as a whole (I have one, too:biglaugh: ), there's just only so much you can do without a Turbo. That or you could hunt down a unicor...I mean a 7M-GZE.:naughty:

 

[Jervis Mcstabby]

Wouldn't expect a full weight targa automatic car to run worth a damn.

:runaway: Ouch, don't rub it in! I'll have to man(ual) up sometime. Oh crap, everyone knows I have a stocky now!:wtc:

 

[AGlobalThreat]

I thought we created the N/A setion to stop all of the N/A bashing!! Not trying to be an asshole but if you don't have any advice or pointers besides "You need a turbo" when someone asks about making more power while staying N/A dont post in the thread after all this is the N/A section, its not like he asked the question in the turbo section. Anyway N/A guys keep your heads up!! I just got my ported and polished head and intake manifold back on Friday and my freshly rebuilt short block is waiting for all of the other misc. performance parts!! I will start removing the old engine on monday and I hope to have the new one in by next Sunday, then I will do a few weeks of break in driving and off to the dyno!! I believe 240-260 rwhp :naughty:

What other mods do u have? What internals? Drivetrain?

 

[suprahooked]

I have a 1987 supra with a n/a motor with an hks exhaust mani, hks external wastegate(rare?).It has an airresearch turbo. I bought the car with this setup a couple months ago. Its currently running 4-5psi and pulls decent. Im not quite sure whats all done to it but i put a 3mm hks headgasket on it. How much boost could i run saftely and how could i run it saftely thanks for the advice. Steven

 

[Tanya]

:ugh2:

I have a 1987 supra with a n/a motor with an hks exhaust mani, hks external wastegate(rare?).It has an airresearch turbo. I bought the car with this setup a couple months ago. Its currently running 4-5psi and pulls decent. Im not quite sure whats all done to it but i put a 3mm hks headgasket on it. How much boost could i run saftely and how could i run it saftely thanks for the advice. Steven

welcome to the n/a thread :ugh2:

 

[TRACKMKIII]

What other mods do u have? What internals? Drivetrain?

Mods

HKS SMF inatake
Custom intake pipe
Ported & Polished head
Port matched intake manifold
HKS MHG 1mm
MSD wires
MSD Blaster Coil
MSD 6A box (Finally picked it up from my friend today!!)
Pacesetter Header w/ 3inch downpipe
3 inch exhaust all the way back w/ test pipe (I can remove the test pipe with 4 bolts and put in a cat when it is emission time)
Aluminum One piece drive shaft

The internals are stock. I just picked up a low mileage engine from a place called Japanese Engines, then I ripped it apart and sent the head and block off to Chix machine shop. There was material removed from the head and the block but I don't have the exact amounts sitting in from of me right now, they are written down at work where I am putting everything together. I rebuilt it with the help of one of the master techs at work with new stock bearings, piston rings and bolts. ( I wish I had the money for ARP bolts :3d_frown: )