gooodamn Hondas!!!
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89jdm7m said:
Its my understanding that the MA Turbo put out 236 over here in Japan and the 1jz put out 280 ps. I've read that from a few different sources. I could be wrong though.
Your post saying that Hondas aren't cost effective is irrelevant.
Of course its relevant! Lets see here, if I could buy a 2001 GSR for say around 10k( give or take a few k) OR you could buy a 2000 Camaro SS. The Camaro ( according to Motor Trend runs about 12.5 or so in the 1/4. The Integra was rated at 15.1.) Now if they both can be had for around the same price range but one goes faster stock AND has a larger aftermarket for it then which would you choose? I know I'd take the SS in a heartbeat over the GSR. I guess of you wanted to compare new car to new car say and RSX vs. Z06 it may be more cost effective to go with the RSX but last I checked most of us here don't fit the demographic for purchasing a Z06 or else we probably wouldnt be driving around 13 plus year old Toyota's.
Of course its relevant! Lets see here, if I could buy a 2001 GSR for say around 10k( give or take a few k) OR you could buy a 2000 Camaro SS. The Camaro ( according to Motor Trend runs about 12.5 or so in the 1/4. The Integra was rated at 15.1.) Now if they both can be had for around the same price range but one goes faster stock AND has a larger aftermarket for it then which would you choose? I know I'd take the SS in a heartbeat over the GSR. I guess of you wanted to compare new car to new car say and RSX vs. Z06 it may be more cost effective to go with the RSX but last I checked most of us here don't fit the demographic for purchasing a Z06 or else we probably wouldnt be driving around 13 plus year old Toyota's.
Uh okay I never said anything about comparing a stock new sports car (SS) to a new honda. Of course the SS is going to spank it but you never said anything about stock for stock. That is just like saying that since you payed 10000 for your car I could spend 7500 and get a bullet bike to walk all over your SS. For the 10000 you spend on that Camaro I could build something to walk all over it. $ for $ my HonDUH will win you hands down.
I can go out and find a shell like I did (1991 Civic Dx), buy a motor, build a cheap junk yard turbo kit and here we have a 13 sec car for 2000. So that leaves me a good 8000 to make my car look better be faster and handle better.:ugh2: If you were in the market to make a car fast why would you even think about buying a newer car anyways? 1994-2001 Integras are all basically the same depending on what model. Besides nobody even makes obd2 standalones for hondas so you would have to modify even more.
I can go out and find a shell like I did (1991 Civic Dx), buy a motor, build a cheap junk yard turbo kit and here we have a 13 sec car for 2000. So that leaves me a good 8000 to make my car look better be faster and handle better.:ugh2: If you were in the market to make a car fast why would you even think about buying a newer car anyways? 1994-2001 Integras are all basically the same depending on what model. Besides nobody even makes obd2 standalones for hondas so you would have to modify even more.
Well I could go out and buy a pos V8 Camaro for next to nothing and then put it on the bottle and run 12 easy for less then what you paid to put together your Honda.
Dollar for dollar the Supra is a way better bet then any non S2000 & NSX Honda. Its better handling, better accelerating, better braking platform to start off with.
This is a quote from one of my friends who is running a pro charged Camaro "I can make any car perform as well as the other in any catagory for the same $$$$." All i'm saying is that to a point all cars can be made to be equal.
Yes it is a better performer in all categories stock but when you throw x amount of money into both cars they can be made equal if not better than the other.
I dont have any reason to doubt that claim. I know it can be done. With a hotshoe behind the wheel, and the right stuff. Also I imagine it would take some creativity and possibly some fabrication.
Then why did you say this?
If you admitted that $ to $ car a could compete with car b instead of saying that Hondas are only a to b cars and could never do what a supra, camaro, mustang can do than we would have been done with this 2 pages ago....RHDMK3 said:
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The average person cant get a Civic to perform the same as a Turbo Supra or a SS Camaro for the same amount of money as it would cost for those two cars.
I don't get it man you keep changing your defense. First it was a honda will NEVER be as good as a supra, then it was a honda stock will never beat a camaro ss, and now it is the average person can't get car a to perform with car b. Yes it is way easier to buy a 12 sec car than build one but that goes the same way if you stack a camaro ss to a supra. The average joe can't get it done.
Yes it is! Good ol daily grinder lol.kwnate said:
I never said I Honda NEVER will beat a Supra and I sure as hell never said a Honda will NEVER beat an SS. I seen Honda's walk all over Supra's and SS's. All I said was for the amount of money you would on average spend on getting a Civic to run 12's or 13's or whatever you could spend on getting a Supra or Camaro or some other v8 beast and be running much faster for less money.
Still brings me back that x amout of money car a could perform with car b. Its all in what you know man. To a point all cars could be made to run with all other cars. Motor against motor a LsX will own any stock honda motor hands down. It is all on what you do with the motor and what platform you are working with.
Btw do you have a MkIII? If so I would like to see some pics of it.
Btw do you have a MkIII? If so I would like to see some pics of it.
Hondas are good for a dd. They can be fast just like any other car can be. They are still fwd econoboxes and everyone has one.
I would take a z06 over any honda no matter how fast it is.
I would take a z06 over any honda no matter how fast it is.
To me its like this, anybody can buy a built car and its funner to build something that will upset somebody with a camaro, corvette, etc. Hmmm maybe I should build me a Ford Festiva or Geo or somethin lol
Boosthpy said:
Yes I do have an MK3. Its a 91 Twin turbo. Its only lightly modified for now. I will be sure and personally pm you some pics when I get them taken and up on the site.
RHDMK3 said:
Now first off I am not a kid I am 24yrs old , now on to the question about Supras I have enough knowledge about them that I know how much power they can make. Now yeah they have the potential to make a lot of power on stock internals, but how many times do you hear about people blowing them up before getting to 800hp? Now I raced a turbo Supra MK3 it wasn't stock either and I had my stock B-16 with the turbo and I smoked it easy. Now the time I ran 13.4 was on the stock motor at 5500 ft elev in New Mexico. I just say what I know from my own personal experience I ran the stock motor on boost without any problems. I will leave this one alone after this, but really let me know what you run and how much power you make. Lets see what you can make with your car. Hey what have you done with your MK3?