Funny supra race

[Boost Lee]

Just because a group of guys and some machinery are collected and dubbed the name "XX Performance" or "XX Motorsports" doesn't mean they knew what they were doing.

The concept is simple, Man. It really is. A head sitting on a block with a healthy gasket held in between with proper torque specs and the due 500 mile retorque (or as such).

As I've said, and I'll stand by this 100%, the problems with headgaskets people are running into with our Supras now are purely the owner. Specifying YOU? No...*whoever* claimed to have done it the correct way.

Again, don't take what I'm saying in a negative way. You meet me in person and will find I'm probably one of the most forgiving and friendly guys you'll run into...but I simply cannot withstand the stupidity in some of these MKIII owners on these boards and their *BHG* issues. <---(Not necessarily with you, but in General).

And you know what? You might just have that bad of luck. Who knows. You can't impress everyone. The 7M cannot impress everyone. But when it's done RIGHT, it's one of the most solid powerplants you'll see around.


-Jeff

 

[Toyota h8r]

Just because a group of guys and some machinery are collected and dubbed the name "XX Performance" or "XX Motorsports" doesn't mean they knew what they were doing.

The concept is simple, Man. It really is. A head sitting on a block with a healthy gasket held in between with proper torque specs and the due 500 mile retorque (or as such).

As I've said, and I'll stand by this 100%, the problems with headgaskets people are running into with our Supras now are purely the owner. Specifying YOU? No...*whoever* claimed to have done it the correct way.

Again, don't take what I'm saying in a negative way. You meet me in person and will find I'm probably one of the most forgiving and friendly guys you'll run into...but I simply cannot withstand the stupidity in some of these MKIII owners on these boards and their *BHG* issues. <---(Not necessarily with you, but in General).

And you know what? You might just have that bad of luck. Who knows. You can't impress everyone. The 7M cannot impress everyone. But when it's done RIGHT, it's one of the most solid powerplants you'll see around.


-Jeff

Yah i wish things woulda went better when i owned my supras but i guess it wasn't meant to be. Ive had 3 different shops do the 7ms so it wasn't just one shop. Now you have got me thinking, i wonder why two shops have shut down and vanished? I threw lots of money at the supras when i owned them so i cant say i didnt try. Finally, i got sick of their problems and sold them for dirt cheap.

 

[tte]

You and those shops must have been doing things wrong.

The supra is very sensitive so that means it needs people who pay attention to little detail...no short cuts. Probably what you should have done is educated yourself on the 7m first before throwing money around trying to fix it. If you know enough you could have fixed your problems...Remember knowledge is power.

There are alot of supra owners here who spend their money on the 7m and get alot of power. I mean 400-500 hp now is common for 7ms. Almost every supra owner can get past 400hp with the lexus, 550cc mod and fuel upgrades.

The car does not fuck up...its the lack of knowledge and attention by the owner...

Cheers,
Roy

 

[Boost Lee]

Yah i wish things woulda went better when i owned my supras but i guess it wasn't meant to be. Ive had 3 different shops do the 7ms so it wasn't just one shop. Now you have got me thinking, i wonder why two shops have shut down and vanished? I threw lots of money at the supras when i owned them so i cant say i didnt try. Finally, i got sick of their problems and sold them for dirt cheap.

Well it's good to see that you're being 100% open-minded about it now.

And like you said, sometimes things just aren't meant to be.

But when it boils down to it, I don't know how much more simple of a concept it is, you know? Look at some of the guys representing our community now. You've got mibrum putting down over 1300hp on a 7M with just boost, Duane over 800, Bryan....Who knows where he'll be at now , Tony O. well over 800, ... all of which are ones I'm just throwing out off the top of my head. Don't even get me started on guys running in excess of 2 bar boost levels with 500-600rwhp+.

And when it boils down to the "BHG" factors...These guys aren't doing anything magical here. It's all just a matter of having the right people do the right job on your head/block and using the proper headgasket with the necessary torque specs.

So, conclusion? You just had bad experiences with the wrong people, it sounds like. Hell, I'm currently running on what would be considered "not so strong" head>gasket>block combination, and I'm boosting daily 14+psi.

I won't try to convince anyone of anything they don't want to believe.
I'm just in here to lay down some facts.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do and for On-topic matters, your buddies 12.8 ET T/A is very respectable.

-Unsubscribing now...

-Jeff

 

[supramike7m]

lt-1 blows. a whopping 280 hp. :nono: my cousin has one of those, 95 z28, they can only do mid-high 14 sec. 1/4 mi. shit even the firehawks only did high 13's back then. (which isnt to bad though) but the z28 or formula idont think with just intake and exhaust this car could do 12's, your buddys lyin to you.

 

[Toyota h8r]

lt-1 blows. a whopping 280 hp. :nono: my cousin has one of those, 95 z28, they can only do mid-high 14 sec. 1/4 mi. shit even the firehawks only did high 13's back then. (which isnt to bad though) but the z28 or formula idont think with just intake and exhaust this car could do 12's, your buddys lyin to you.

Well ive seen his run at the track so i can say its a 13 or better car. When the track opens april 7th or somethin like that for test n tune ill have to get a time slip. For some reason his car is faster than what the "books" say the car "should run". Also, the m6's are so much faster than the a4's, i dont know why tho (weight i presume). The t/a's mods: K&N fipk, msd ign setup, jethot LT's, custom x-pipe, straight 3inch exhaust to dynomax bullets, a custom fuel tune(laptop tuning). bigger injectors, lt4 knock sensor. Soon to add on to car: vortech procharger, N.O.S. lt1 wet kit, 4:10:1 gear set, and a ram air hood.:naughty:

 

[Sawbladz]

he bought all that for $800? I doubt it but if he did he got a smoking deal...good for him.

 

[Toyota h8r]

he bought all that for $800? I doubt it but if he did he got a smoking deal...good for him.

Like they say, ebay can be good for somethings.:icon_bigg

 

[TurboStreetCar]

lt-1 blows. a whopping 280 hp. :nono: my cousin has one of those, 95 z28, they can only do mid-high 14 sec. 1/4 mi. shit even the firehawks only did high 13's back then. (which isnt to bad though) but the z28 or formula idont think with just intake and exhaust this car could do 12's, your buddys lyin to you.

:withstupi

I pulled of a 13.8 in my car and raced a Z28 LT1 camaro and beat it. i think its a stretch to loose a second in the 1320 with only intake and exhaust.

and i beat it more then once, both from a stop AND from a roll. so it wasnt the launch or someone getting the jump.

 

[89supturbo]

What are you guys talking about, the LT1 is a great moto, granted its not as good as the LS-series but your trying to back up a 7m. Those motors are strong as hell and arnt anywhere near there full power potential without a cam, also they're pretty strong motors and hold up great under low boost and nitrous any LT1 camaro can be in the 11's for less than it takes to get a supra to 12's if you knwo what you're doing.

 

[Slow66]

1) moved to proper section

2) how the fuck do so many threads end up going down this road....

3) I have 1/2 a mind to just fuckin delete it....but i wont yet (unless it starts getting too personal that is...)

 

[Quin]

I've seen and heard about completely stock LT1 TAs hitting low 13s. If you run a 14 or higher in any REAL fourth gen f-body you need to learn how to launch. Who said a measly 280hp stock? Whats the stock MkIII have? . Plus, a grand into an LTx or LSx motor will stomp most of what you'll find on the road.

 

[TurboStreetCar]

I've seen and heard about completely stock LT1 TAs hitting low 13s. If you run a 14 or higher in any REAL fourth gen f-body you need to learn how to launch. Who said a measly 280hp stock? Whats the stock MkIII have? . Plus, a grand into an LTx or LSx motor will stomp most of what you'll find on the road.

its not very likely to run a low 13 with a completely stock LT1 f-body, unless the car is bare bones, manual everything, hardtop with slicks and skinnies, and i still doubt it. not a high enough power to weight ratio.


By real 4th gen f-body you mean one with a LS1 dont you :biglaugh:

arent they 275? even 280 Horsepower is kinda measlie for a 5.7 liter V8 of that year. the 4.6 mustangs made 260 (IIRC) and the supra of that time made 320.

any LT1 camaro can be in the 11's for less than it takes to get a supra to 12's if you knwo what you're doing.

If parts for a supra were as cheap as they were for a camaro that wouldnt be true.

And i have a honest question......how much have you spent on your car(not including cars price) to run XX.XXX seconds in the 1/4? I really want to know your costs to judge that vs buddys cost.

only counting things that actually make the car faster?

400bucks on parts
300 bucks for bfg drag radials.

700 bucks and 13.8

 

[Toyota h8r]

If parts for a supra were as cheap as they were for a camaro that wouldnt be true.
I love owning domectic cars and trucks for that very reason, and many more.

 

[Quin]

No, by REAL f-body I meant an LT1 or an LS1, because that one described earlier sounds like a V6. You can say its not very likely but it's happened, check YouTube. You can't even run DRs on a stock suspension fourth gen f-body, at least not for very long. Rear end isn't strong enough.

 

[tturnpaw]

I believe in LS1s over any LT1 any day. Smooth power and torque curves all day long and extreme reliability. All my moms corvette ever did was had a miss that would never go away no matter what we did to it. I also dont consider that a race of any kind, and more of a whoops of an engine failure.

 

[Big Wang Bandit]

My dads F250 will smoke all your asses

 

[Toyota h8r]

My dads F250 will smoke all your asses

Some ford powerstrokes are mean...hell theres even a 10 second one that is closer to stock. (aftermarket boost equip)
I believe in LS1s over any LT1 any day. Smooth power and torque curves all day long and extreme reliability. All my moms corvette ever did was had a miss that would never go away no matter what we did to it. I also dont consider that a race of any kind, and more of a whoops of an engine failure.
Yes the ls1 is smoother and yet more expensive. When has gm made a small block that wasn't extremely reliable? If you read the posting i made, the supra was driving normal and then downshifted in 2nd gear. The car was running good. So when he shifted, for some reason when the car started making boost in 3rd gear, it blew the ic pipe off. The t/a was really just playing around with the supra, not really trying to race him.(starting crap really). Now the supra wants to run again, but the funny part.........he wants to get a heads start! He and i were talking and it came up that he wants to go from a roll. I said fine, but hes like "i want some kinda head start". I said how about race from a dead start? His responce....."no way".
I dunno maybe its a stock 7m with aftermarket ic parts and exhaust piping.

 

[Mr.PFloyd]

make the trans am take a turn. :rofl:

 

[Darkcyde]

make the trans am take a turn. :rofl: