forgive Supramania, father for they have sinned......

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speed;951923 said:
By calling something such as pollution a sin that you'll go to hell for.
Hey, don't throw away anything! Everything must be 100% recycled! Cause if its not, its polluting the environment!! You're telling me that people will go to hell for throwing stuff out? That they need to go to confession because they used no recyclable goods? GTFO.

That being said, it should be everyone's personal responsibility to take care of the environment. TAKE CARE of it. Not go to hell because its IMPOSSIBLE for us not to pollute.

The drugs bit I understand, your body is God's temple. The Genetics bit I get, but don't agree with. But either way, saying its a SIN AGAINST GOD AND YOULL GO TO HELL is not the way religion should work. Granted I have a fundamental conflict with catholism, I don't believe you should have to go through ANY man to communicate with God. Catholics go about religion in this manner: "follow our rules, or confess to a man, or burn in hell" whereas I believe religion should be "Try your damnedest to follow God's word, live as best you can, treat others well, and have a personal relationship with God."

Go Martin Luther! heh

You make good points. I merely offered a quick explanation for why I thought they had made the decisions that they had. I wouldn't be surprised if the decisions were made with the same research as I put into it.

I was raised in the first half of my life as an Episcopal, which is very similar to Catholic, only they will allow divorce in the Episcopal church. I got married, and stopped going to church for quite a long time. After getting divorced, I remarried a few years later, and joined the Catholic church with my new wife. I had to go thru classes to "Become" Catholic. during those classes, I explained my divorce to the Priest and he told me that my sin had been resolved. I still have a problem with that, as the priest is just a man who is not without sin himself. I spent 3-4 years in that church, and have not been back in over 3 years.


The whole time I have spent in any church or not, I have always lived my life LIVING exactly what you said.......... "Try your damnedest to follow God's word, live as best you can, treat others well, and have a personal relationship with God."
 

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suprarx7nut;951874 said:
Genetic manipulation? Ya, because Jimmy was SUPPOSED to be born with a horrible disease or cancer before age 5.

Ummm... I don't think that's what they mean.

Jimmy was probably born like that because of all the crapp that is going on w/ the hybrid produce/farm animals and such anyway.
 

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johnathan1;952051 said:
What about that God guy?

Can't talk to him without going through them... :icon_bigg

Anyway, you'd never get a word in edge-wise with the big man, he's busy making sure athletes win their games and politicians win their elections...
 

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holy shit. That is crap.

Father forgive me, for I have sinned against God and my fellow mankind, I have removed the emissions equiptment from my car.

Doesn't sound right.
 

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hehehehe

If you haven't, watch Dogma...

Catholic /= Christian

Denominationalism is a gross breakdown of people saying, "well, I don't quite agree with that, so I'll make my own church and twist the words." Catholics are the worst at this outside of the nutjobs...
 

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I was raised a repressed catholic until I converted to Episcopalian. All the savings half the guilt.

If I'm going to hell can I take my Supra with me?
 

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wait what does the popemobile run off of? the fuel must be blessed, so that makes it ok, right? im not too sure but i think they might of shot themselves in the foot again

Remember, this is a man who talks about poverty and the atrocity of starving people, yet he himself eats off of gold plates. This is a man who talks about how the greedy rich nations are responsible for the horrible death toll in Africa, but he himself supresses the availability of condoms and sexual education in the most AIDS ridden area of the world. This is a man who said that the Latin American natives "were longing for Christianity" and had welcomed the Catholic priests at the time of European conquest. When it comes to the church and its horrendous history of human rights disasters, this guy is simply in denial.

Hypocrisy is nothing new for him. And this man's hypocrisy has a body count.
 

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Supracentral;952473 said:
Remember, this is a man who talks about poverty and the atrocity of starving people, yet he himself eats off of gold plates. This is a man who talks about how the greedy rich nations are responsible for the horrible death toll in Africa, but he himself supresses the availability of condoms and sexual education in the most AIDS ridden area of the world. This is a man who said that the Latin American natives "were longing for Christianity" and had welcomed the Catholic priests at the time of European conquest. When it comes to the church and its horrendous history of human rights disasters, this guy is simply in denial.

Hypocrisy is nothing new for him. And this man's hypocrisy has a body count.


Lest not forget the spanish inquisition of the medival times for all the heretics, that was signed off by the "church".
 
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I've seen some of you in this thread go ape over somebody making racist remarks in the past, but then I see a thread like this. It's not the first time I've seen a thread like this, and it hasn't only been directed at Catholics, either - it's been Baptists, Mormons, etc, etc, etc. Make enough racist remarks or make enough personal attacks on certain individuals around and risk a ban, but turn out your worst on a religion or on God in general and maybe you'll get a special star next to your username! Am I the only one who smells a little hypocrisy here?

Feel free to disagree with any church's doctrine, you are more than entitled to a differing perspective, but there's not much to be proud of in this thread for sure. I won't be putting on the flame suit, because I won't be wasting my time in this thread again.

Carry on...
 

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Shytheed Dumas;952700 said:
I've seen some of you in this thread go ape over somebody making racist remarks in the past, but then I see a thread like this. It's not the first time I've seen a thread like this, and it hasn't only been directed at Catholics, either - it's been Baptists, Mormons, etc, etc, etc. Make enough racist remarks or make enough personal attacks on certain individuals around and risk a ban, but turn out your worst on a religion or on God in general and maybe you'll get a special star next to your username! Am I the only one who smells a little hypocrisy here?

Feel free to disagree with any church's doctrine, you are more than entitled to a differing perspective, but there's not much to be proud of in this thread for sure. I won't be putting on the flame suit, because I won't be wasting my time in this thread again.

Carry on...

"Off Topic Lounge Read the rules first, then have fun. (Warning - may contain posts offensive to some readers. If you are easily offended, this is not the forum for you....)"
 

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Shytheed Dumas;952700 said:
I've seen some of you in this thread go ape over somebody making racist remarks in the past, but then I see a thread like this.

I haven't noticed any racism? Bigotry? Personal attacks on you? I haven't. Has anyone else?

Oh.. Wait. You think that because people disagree with your beliefs, or more specifically, people who criticize or mock this pope, that they should be treated the same as people who engage in irrational hatred and poor treatment of people based upon genetic traits?

You think that someone who believes in the existence of an invisible space fairy who watches everything you do and will doom you to an eternity of miserable torture in a pit of fire by an invisible underground fairy for not believing that he made man from dust then took one of his ribs to make a woman, then that woman met a magic talking snake (who was actually the invisible underground fairy in disguise) the magic snake then tricks the woman into eating the magic wisdom apple that the invisible space fairy had told them not to eat, she then tricked the man into eating it, which then gets humanity kicked out of a beautiful garden is therefore entitled to some special protection?

Would you extend that same protection to the followers of Islam? How about Buddhists? Members of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster? How about people who worship Ra? Followers of the Reverend Moon? Anubis? Quetzalcoatl? Cthulhu? Which sets of mystical beliefs are entitled to this special treatment?

No, sorry, you are entitled to your belief. No one will take it away from you. No one will deny you access to the site because of it. However they are more than willing to mock a religious leader who runs his mouth about public policy and science it if they see fit.

Shytheed Dumas;952700 said:
It's not the first time I've seen a thread like this, and it hasn't only been directed at Catholics, either - it's been Baptists, Mormons, etc, etc, etc.

Doubt it will be the last. As long as religious leaders keep trying to interject themselves into public policy and politics, people will speak against them.

It's probably got to do with the tax free status of religions. People get pissed because religion hasn't paid it's admission price like the rest of us...

Shytheed Dumas;952700 said:
Make enough racist remarks or make enough personal attacks on certain individuals around and risk a ban, but turn out your worst on a religion or on God in general and maybe you'll get a special star next to your username! Am I the only one who smells a little hypocrisy here?

Wow, that's a great idea. I hadn't thought of gold stars yet! Thanks... :sarcasm:

Shytheed Dumas;952700 said:
Feel free to disagree with any church's doctrine, you are more than entitled to a differing perspective, but there's not much to be proud of in this thread for sure.

Are you honestly trying to equate "someone disagreeing with logically flawed thought backed by nothing but mysticism" and "poor treatement of someone based upon the color of their skin"?

Really?

Not much to be proud of there either. For all your morally superior posturing, you don't bring much to the table, do you?

Shytheed Dumas;952700 said:
I won't be putting on the flame suit, because I won't be wasting my time in this thread again.

Oh, ok then.
 

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If you believe in your faith it should not matter what others say. I'm on the middle ground in religion where I just say I have no clue myself. I'm pretty open minded about it all... but I can take people bashing ideas.