*Experience>Enthusiasm*

IJ.

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This isn't a bitchslap to our younger members but recently I'm seeing a trend more and more of people buying Supra's with little to no mechanical experience and then undertaking rebuilds....

Our cars while old and cheap to buy now are a VERY complex system and I'm confused as to why people that would struggle to change a plug on a lawn mower think they have any chance of a successful rebuild..

My advice as always is try and find a Mentor in your area that has "been there done that" if you're not sure, too often people just delete things with no understanding of what the part's function is then wonder why the car has problems.
 

tte

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Agreed!!!!
Always do your research and lots of reading before attempting something big or deciding to omit something in the car.

Cheers,
Roy
 

CRE

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johnathan1 said:
Yea, who needs valve covers?? I like watching the cams spin. :)

Definitely, and there's really no better way to make sure the oil's pumping short of removing the big pan thingy on the bottom.... but it's too hard to get to.
 

annoyingrob

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johnathan1 said:
Yea, who needs valve covers?? I like watching the cams spin. :)
You know, if they made clear valve covers, I would buy them! Seriously.





As for inexperienced people trying to rebuild their supras, honestly, if they don't try, they'll never get the experience. I would much prefer to see somebody read the TSRM, and do it themselves then to take it to some shop.
 

CRE

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HellsLegion said:
I still don't know why I keep buying these damn cars

^^^ROFL

The thing that gets me is all the people who buy them to "fix up" and "rebuild" yet they don't do ANY research until they've already got the car in their garage with half the contents of the engine bay sitting in a large unlabeled heap next to the fender and new set of cut springs.
 

CRE

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speed dodici said:
I just know someone is going to chime in saying "Yea! I totally agree" and IJ will be thinking "you're the dumbass that made me write this thread."

Yup, he just did....

















j/k
 

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Reign_Maker

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speed dodici said:
I just know someone is going to chime in saying "Yea! I totally agree" and IJ will be thinking "you're the dumbass that made me write this thread."
Busted... He made this for me...

IJ, move to FWB Florida, now... Mentor me, please... :love:
 

7MsuprO

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I'll be honest, I didn't know nearly enough when I got my first supra and fell for the cheap/fast routine which did not = reliable. Ive learned a lot since then though and am comfortable owning these cars now...feeling like I can do most things myself. When it really comes down to it though...its not a cheap car to own either. I just always wish I had more money and more tools! As far as people lacking knowledge, they have to start somewhere. If they f*ck up a rebuild at least its THEIR rebuild.
 

tte

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Thats true...new owners can attempt a rebuild and fuck it up and learn from it. But having a mentor is so much better.

Its like when you start a business. Usually its good to find a mentor in the same field and he/she can help you out to start your business. And you can talk to your mentor once/ twice a week to gauge your business progress and work out solutions to your problems.

This way it saves you alot of time because you do not have to spend years and years making mistakes and getting those years of experience. Use the experience from experienced mentors and get your business up and running successful on the first attempt if possible. This also saves you alot of time and we all know that time is money.

Years back I did just that. I found a mentor who was the president of some big high tech organization in Silicon Valley and he invited me to lots of business fuctions to help build my contacts. I did not go because back then I had other things going on in my life. Now i wish I had gone although I could still contact my mentor.

This applies to our cars too like 1J suggested.Good Mentors will save you
time, money and mistakes. Its like having a good teacher by your side.

Cheers,
Roy
 

OneJArpus

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tte said:
Agreed!!!!
Always do your research and lots of reading before attempting something big or deciding to omit something in the car.

Cheers,
Roy



I agree 100% myself, i am a certified automechanic with some backround. I have also did 2+ years of reading on a 1J swap and i am only NOW trying to complete it. With all that reading and searching for more information i am still intimidated because i have never did anything at this level. It will probably be a breeze or feel like one once complete but i like to know that if i fuck up i have the knowledge or resources for help.



bigaaron said:
Another thing I notice is many people buying parts based on price alone, and not even considering customer service or honesty or quality.



Aaron i totally agree, i did my homework on who i should buy my parts from, how much its worth, the quality of this part, and will this person help me if anything goes wrong and that is why i've spent as much as i did with your company. I have only baught a few minor parts from other resources but i've almost gotten everything on your site + more to come in the future.


~Cecilio