driftking786;890661 said:
I'm begining to think that my issues are spark plug related. I'm running NGK 6097's, but I think that they're too hot. I'm going to try iridiums and see what happens....
Engine management... what to use W/ 1JZ
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I'm begining to think that my issues are spark plug related. I'm running NGK 6097's, but I think that they're too hot. I'm going to try iridiums and see what happens....
AEM works with all stock sensors. The need for the aftermarket sensors is based on higher resolution. The AEM has knock control. You can't beat that for the price. The support is big for the AEM. AEM box has iddle speed control and it's by far the only box aside from HKS FconV pro that will work like stock. The price on AEMs boxes has come down with all the extra sensors to the low 1,500's; with Boost control selenoid, 3.5 bar map sensor and the air intake temp sensor. If you conpare apples to apples, the EMS that compares to the AEM box is the 8860 from the same company that made the stinger, and you still don't have knock control.
IMHO, the stinger shouldn't be used in fully built engines, there is to much money in your engine and it should get the best EMS for the money and I think that EMS is the AEM box.
IMHO, the stinger shouldn't be used in fully built engines, there is to much money in your engine and it should get the best EMS for the money and I think that EMS is the AEM box.
rakkasan;891129 said:
Mark, my AFCneo allowed me to make 433 Hp with 435 rwtq. If I had 550's I could of made 500 easy! I made that power with only 440's and everything else stock. The stinger is a good box, but I have reached the limits of the stinger and have seen the drawbacks of using it. I can't stress how important having that knock control is.
soapra;891353 said:
What size inducer? Going from 427whp (at 11.8 AFR) with EMB to 478whp (10.2 AFR) with stand alone isn't a good jump? What are the draw backs of Stinger? I haven't identified them yet. Well, other than nailing the cold settings down that is....
So in my case.... SAFC should be just fine since im not planning on keeping the car much longer and it wouldnt make sense to dump a extra 1500 for the box. Next project car involves 2jz :naughty:
rakkasan;891132 said:
You oughta PM Suprahero about his spark issues, he running iridiums.
By the way where are you stationed? Nothing going on here at CSJFTC.
rakkasan;890610 said:
I think with the stinger you get it in the ass.. 1000 and has only 1/4 of what the aem has why not spend 400 more for something that has much more power.
sub 500whp afc + stock ecu is perfectly fine. You'll gain some wiht a standalone but nothing major. beyond 500whp the standalone starts to seperate its self from the stock ecu + piggy back quiet a bit.
tissimo;892254 said:
Again I ask, what does AEM offer that I need that Stinger doesn't? That's the nuts and bolts here....
rakkasan;892287 said:
I'd have to look at the software again, but iirc, a nitrous map (/meth map), boost control, antilag/2 step, knock control, various user switches and inputs.
rakkasan;892287 said:
soapra;891340 said:
the 8860 costs a lot more than the AEM from what i remember (or i converted the austrailian currency wrong) and it was similar in specs but like soapra said it doesnt have that knock control
http://www.emsnorthamerica.com/8860.htm
(remember this is the 8860 http://www.emsnorthamerica.com/ecu_specifications.htm comparison between stinger and 8860)
http://aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=62
and in the details the aem seems to offer more features etc
rakkasan;891631 said:
Mark I did it with my HKS pea shooters :biglaugh:
When trying to set the cold setting on the Stinger, do you bump up the timming to try to make it iddle? I'm trying to find out one thing and it may have to do with that. Can't say just yet but I will get to the end of this soon.
soapra;892431 said:
I bumped the timing down to 4 degrees during start up, which helped a lot. I can get it started, but I have to let it idle for a minute or two before I touch the throttle or it will die immediately. I'm still having trouble when it's 35 degrees or colder....
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tissimo;892292 said:
No need to research, I believe you are correct. None of the above features will ever be used on my car, nor on a vast majority of the members of SM.
That's the point I'm trying to hammer home. 99% of the time, when someone asks advice about what to buy, the answer he/she is given is the most exspensive option. My needs are met Stinger, as would be 99.99% of the other members here. Can I have gotten more for more money spent? Absolutely, but it would have been a waste.
even tho alot of the local guys in dfw are using aem (and were pushing me to get it) and weve got some amazing local tuners for it, i dont think ill ever need some of the stuff that the aem can do, both the aem and stinger have been proven to work great on these cars, and if i was going for more than 600hp i probably woulda just gotten the aem. for my goals im pretty sure the stinger is going to work for me.
but to the OP, if your only goin for 350whp, an afc will be more than enough for that power
but to the OP, if your only goin for 350whp, an afc will be more than enough for that power
rakkasan;892500 said:
I guess if you're not going to use the features then yea, its pointless to spend the extra money even though the features are quiet useful. But then why not just get megasquirt which is 1/2 the cost of Stinger and does eveything you and the vast majority of SM members need.
I like my Stinger as well. I don't have any way of comparing it to the AEM because I've never owned one. I'm sure it is a great product as well, but the Stinger seems to do everything that I need it to do.
Jose, how does this knock detection work? Does it cut the car off when it detects it, or are you having to watch another gauge, or does it retard the timing like the stock ecu? I'm just curious. I've been wondering how I can install a guage or something that will tell me about my knock. I have the SAFCII still installed, but the knock sensor has never been hooked up to it. The knock correction always reads zero on the SAFCII.
Jose, how does this knock detection work? Does it cut the car off when it detects it, or are you having to watch another gauge, or does it retard the timing like the stock ecu? I'm just curious. I've been wondering how I can install a guage or something that will tell me about my knock. I have the SAFCII still installed, but the knock sensor has never been hooked up to it. The knock correction always reads zero on the SAFCII.