Engine Management Suggestions

[supraguy31]

Ok all, there are Quite a few Engine Management Setups out there.

MAF-T
MAF PRO
VPC
Greedy E-manage Ultimate
Microtech Engine Management
AEM Engine Management
etc etc etc

Im only asking because I dont want to spend a Shitload of money tuning and getting everything setup if there is cheaper ways to do it and get the same results. I was thinking about the Greedy but I really need all of you Imputs since its going to be used on a 7MGTE

Place to Purchase would be greatly Appreciated also. and if someone has a decent setup for sale, Shoot me a PM.

Robert

 

[starscream5000]

There aren't that many people out there running the e-manage ultimate yet. I do believe that theoretically, it can eliminate your afm, but i'm not sure. I do know that there are bunches of ppl on here running the MAFT Pro and are having great success with it. There is one member on here (I don't remember his name) that sells these and all the accessories to boot! As far as getting pointers on how to hook up your engine management and the best way to tune that unit, the MAFT Pro is the way to go as previously stated, lots of ppl have them and can help you get your car running (with or without the afm) and running great to boot. It's all up to you though, but the easiest engine management unit to buy, instal, and get working properly would be the Pro. It may not be the cheapest one, but neither is the most expensive (by far not the most expensive).
Oh, and don't forget the Motec engine management, Ron R is using (or was, I think) that one.

 

[supraguy31]

There aren't that many people out there running the e-manage ultimate yet. I do believe that theoretically, it can eliminate your afm, but i'm not sure. I do know that there are bunches of ppl on here running the MAFT Pro and are having great success with it. There is one member on here (I don't remember his name) that sells these and all the accessories to boot! As far as getting pointers on how to hook up your engine management and the best way to tune that unit, the MAFT Pro is the way to go as previously stated, lots of ppl have them and can help you get your car running (with or without the afm) and running great to boot. It's all up to you though, but the easiest engine management unit to buy, instal, and get working properly would be the Pro. It may not be the cheapest one, but neither is the most expensive (by far not the most expensive).
Oh, and don't forget the Motec engine management, Ron R is using (or was, I think) that one.

Motec Engine Management.... Never heard of that one Before. I think Im going to look at it also and add it to the list. Ive read up on the MAFT Pro, There are a few People that suggest not using it. A friend of mine here in El Paso has a Speed Shop and he said that the MAFT Pro will not support alot of Modifications, Example, He is running Dual Fuel Pumps, 1000cc Injectors, Huge T78 Turbo and he said that the MAFT Pro cant tune it in. Im running a Big Diesel Turbo with 720cc injectors and a MKIV Fuel Pump. Hell, All I want to do is run consistant 12s. Will this unit fix everything for me so I dont have the Problem I did before (Had to tear the Motor Apart because of 4 Cracked Pistons due to High Boost, and Detonation).

Robert

 

[starscream5000]

If your goal is consistant 12's then the MAFT Pro should be just right. With our cars it doesn't take that much to get into 12's. Most ppl with modded supras running 13's could make 12's if they could figure out how to launch the car correctly, but all of this rant is on several other threads.
If your goal is to run a set up like your friends, then you would be more apt to go with a full standalone that can support all of those mods (the MoTec is one of these, pm Ron and he may be able to point you in the right direction on how and where to get info on the MoTec. I do believe he installed all the wiring himself too. If you go the cardomain.com look up MoTec Supra, that's Ron Ramirez, he's the guy that makes the most popular and best built FFIM's for the mk3.)
Anyways, the MAFT Pro should have no problem being able to tune your car to have over 500 whp, and with that much power, you should be able to kiss the 12 goodbye!

 

[supraguy31]

If your goal is consistant 12's then the MAFT Pro should be just right. With our cars it doesn't take that much to get into 12's. Most ppl with modded supras running 13's could make 12's if they could figure out how to launch the car correctly, but all of this rant is on several other threads.
If your goal is to run a set up like your friends, then you would be more apt to go with a full standalone that can support all of those mods (the MoTec is one of these, pm Ron and he may be able to point you in the right direction on how and where to get info on the MoTec. I do believe he installed all the wiring himself too. If you go the cardomain.com look up MoTec Supra, that's Ron Ramirez, he's the guy that makes the most popular and best built FFIM's for the mk3.)
Anyways, the MAFT Pro should have no problem being able to tune your car to have over 500 whp, and with that much power, you should be able to kiss the 12 goodbye!

Well, If you remember, this is a 7MGTE in a MK2.

so the Weight difference is a benefit. He has a AEM in his car so Im thinking he is just trying to sell a Product at $1900.00 installed. I just dont wait to....
1. Run Lean Anymore
2. Rebuild this motor again when it only had 8,000 miles on it
3. Know that when I want to run it, Im not worried about if its going to lean out.

If I could be insured that that wouldnt happen with this unit, I would buy one today...


Robert

 

[jtamulis]

he's got a MKII, 400rwhp will put him in the 12's easy.

Jeff

 

[BJ91T]

I am planning on using MAFT-PRO for my 450 Whp daily driver setup

 

[BJ91T]

Het man that has to be one of the cleanest mk2 i have seen in a while. Makes me want one how hard was the 7M swap?

 

[foreverpsycotic]

that mk2 is teh sex. go maft, and dont deel with an afm

 

[supraguy31]

Not hard at all, Actually, I have 2 of them. This is my 84 Green 7MGTE Supra and I have a Red 85 7MGTE supra (Which will be up for sale soon). My Friends jtamulis is also a MK2 7MGTE owner and his car hauls ass.

Robert

 

[starscream5000]

Well, If you remember, this is a 7MGTE in a MK2.

so the Weight difference is a benefit. He has a AEM in his car so Im thinking he is just trying to sell a Product at $1900.00 installed. I just dont wait to....
1. Run Lean Anymore
2. Rebuild this motor again when it only had 8,000 miles on it
3. Know that when I want to run it, Im not worried about if its going to lean out.

If I could be insured that that wouldnt happen with this unit, I would buy one today...


Robert

Sorry about that, didn't even think to look at what body the engine was in. Like I said earlier, it's all in the person's opinion of the engine management product you buy. If tuned correctly, and this is the key phrase, any of the management units will keep your A/R's from going lean, but for running 12's, there's no need in spending almost 2 grand, you can spend less than half of that on a fully loaded MAFT Pro and tunned, hell, use the other 1k on some performance parts.

 

[RacerXJ220]

Nice car.

I'm still sold on Megasquirt.

 

[turbogate]

From what I hear, if you don’t have at least $3000+ you can forget about the Motec system, I hope I'm wrong. The maft pro is the ultimate Piggy back for the 7M. As far as stand alone, The AEM is probably the way to go if you are running an 7M engine harness already and don’t want to worry about wiring, I also hear good things about the Microtech, but you need to do or get an harness made for it. But for standalone you usually will spend some more money in getting it tuned. Here in south Florida, one of the AEM certified tuners charges around $450 just for tuning it (not sure if that includes the dyno fees) but he is probably one of the best tuners in the country, and I am not exaggerating.

 

[tookwik4u89]

I'm sooo glad maft pro came out before I dumped the $$$ on aem, It was just over $600 with the extras (boost controller and speed density conversion) Talk to Drjonez. I think he said it wont support over 1000cc injectors, but i cant imagine a couple people "needing" that. It now has timing monitor and control, a/f tracking(adjusts your a/f ratio to what you set, using your wideband input) and may get a 2step soon. The datalogging software kinda sux, but theres new stuff coming out any week now, TurboBob listens to all our feedback and keeps making it better.

 

[Silvermk2]

The AEM will do what you want. However, tuning can be either expensive or a frustrating experience depending if you do it yourself or pay someone to do it. I run an AEM in my car and sometimes I think it has a mind of its own...

 

[johnnyddn]

Yeah, I would forget about the Motec system unless you plan on spending more than what most of our cars are worth. I think the data dash logging gauge is more than 3 grand alone without the ECU. They are expensive but Motec is used by many race teams for data acquisition and is practically the best thing out there. Not only that, there are not many people using Motec in MKIII’s so it would be tough to get information if you run into trouble. I’d stick with the Maft-Pro, you’ll always be able to find answers and help with that system.

 

[RacerXJ220]

Dense?

 

[starscream5000]

Yep, you should have the best overall experience as far as cost, effectiveness, and ease of instal and tuning from the MAFT Pro.

 

[jamesdem1123]

i too am looking itno the whole megasquirt idea... i prefer the idea of complete engine management with ignition control too.

my friend ran an emanage ultimate in his turbo camry before an oil line burst on his exhaust manifold and caught everything on fire, it worked well tho. lol

just do some research on the megasquirt and u may like it.

 

[figgie]

Motec Engine Management.... Never heard of that one Before. I think Im going to look at it also and add it to the list. Ive read up on the MAFT Pro, There are a few People that suggest not using it. A friend of mine here in El Paso has a Speed Shop and he said that the MAFT Pro will not support alot of Modifications, Example, He is running Dual Fuel Pumps, 1000cc Injectors, Huge T78 Turbo and he said that the MAFT Pro cant tune it in. Im running a Big Diesel Turbo with 720cc injectors and a MKIV Fuel Pump. Hell, All I want to do is run consistant 12s. Will this unit fix everything for me so I dont have the Problem I did before (Had to tear the Motor Apart because of 4 Cracked Pistons due to High Boost, and Detonation).

Robert

i'll chime in on the Motec

do not expect it to be cheap. And don't expect it to be tuned by any joe bagadonuts and run right either.

also entry price of admission is significantly more than any other EMS out now. Also if you can get a pro or fly someone in from motec to tune you, you will have LESS overall headaches in the long run.

if you do an M600 with harness and a couple option turned on.. you will be looking at around $5000 for ems and associated equipment (new sensors, harness and wideband sensor feeding directly into the motec). The motec is the ONLY ems that allows for direct input of a wideband. All other EMS require a seperate wideband system to do that and then pump the 0v-5v out to the EMS.