I've got a bunch of people getting all up in my face about how domestic cars are better cuz there cheaper!! Me with my low knowledge of cars, love my imports and really have no comebacks. Any help would be wonderful!!!!
Domestic vs. Imports
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I'm working on a 1JZ for my Supra and their all giving me shit about how I'm spending so much money!
You want my honest opinion?
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The domestic groups are diversified, but you basically have everyone in 3 categories -
Group 1:
People that KNOW what the hell they are doing (generally the old school muscle car guys - Pontiac and Mopar guys in particular seem to know wtf they are doing). May not know everything, but I find they tend to be really good about being knowledgable, and willing to discuss just about anything under the sun related to cars. Otherwise referred to by me as 'Gear Heads'
Group 2:
The NFI Group - Generally the majority of 3rd generation Fbody owners
They are clueless. Utterly. NFI what they are doing. Terms like '3/4 race cam' tend to come up, or how much more power a '355' makes vs a std bore 350. Yeah, these are mullet powered Fox bodies and F bodies of the world
Group 3:
The More Money Than Brains Group - Corvette owners 90% of the time here. The guys spouting LSx > *, irregardless of actual reality. This group is not JUST domestics though - all walks of car-dom in this group
Import groups tend to fall into 3 categories, imho:
Group 1: I'd refer to these guys as 'tuners' - basically, young gear heads. The guys that take their Integra (or Supra) and run 13s (or 11s) with it, and wrench on their own shit. They take pride in their ride - and to hell with what the redneck domestic owners from Group 2 say.
Group 2: Ricers. Yeah, you know who you are. :3d_frown:
I always thought of imports as those two groups - but now that I've gotten more and more into the imports myself, I've found a 3rd group -
Group 3:
The nut swingers. Armchair forum warriors. Doesn't matter that their POS is dead, with bad breaks and rod knock - THEY have the superior ride, because 'so and so' has one. Same with parts. I've never seen this in the domestic side of things (actually, in my experience, diversity is WELCOMED in the domestic circles) but in the import crowd, you find these nut swingers all over the place. Dare to be different!! Run that 7M in the MKIV!
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In closing, if you ask me, 90% of the quality of the car, is sitting behind the wheel - be it good or bad quality.
[rant]
The domestic groups are diversified, but you basically have everyone in 3 categories -
Group 1:
People that KNOW what the hell they are doing (generally the old school muscle car guys - Pontiac and Mopar guys in particular seem to know wtf they are doing). May not know everything, but I find they tend to be really good about being knowledgable, and willing to discuss just about anything under the sun related to cars. Otherwise referred to by me as 'Gear Heads'
Group 2:
The NFI Group - Generally the majority of 3rd generation Fbody owners
They are clueless. Utterly. NFI what they are doing. Terms like '3/4 race cam' tend to come up, or how much more power a '355' makes vs a std bore 350. Yeah, these are mullet powered Fox bodies and F bodies of the world Group 3:
The More Money Than Brains Group - Corvette owners 90% of the time here. The guys spouting LSx > *, irregardless of actual reality. This group is not JUST domestics though - all walks of car-dom in this group
Import groups tend to fall into 3 categories, imho:
Group 1: I'd refer to these guys as 'tuners' - basically, young gear heads. The guys that take their Integra (or Supra
) and run 13s (or 11s) with it, and wrench on their own shit. They take pride in their ride - and to hell with what the redneck domestic owners from Group 2 say.Group 2: Ricers. Yeah, you know who you are. :3d_frown:
I always thought of imports as those two groups - but now that I've gotten more and more into the imports myself, I've found a 3rd group -
Group 3:
The nut swingers. Armchair forum warriors. Doesn't matter that their POS is dead, with bad breaks and rod knock - THEY have the superior ride, because 'so and so' has one. Same with parts. I've never seen this in the domestic side of things (actually, in my experience, diversity is WELCOMED in the domestic circles) but in the import crowd, you find these nut swingers all over the place. Dare to be different!! Run that 7M in the MKIV!
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In closing, if you ask me, 90% of the quality of the car, is sitting behind the wheel - be it good or bad quality.
Just listen to Doward. I agree 100% with him, and joe also, just walk away. Its not worth the headache.
Doward said:You want my honest opinion?
[rant]
The domestic groups are diversified, but you basically have everyone in 3 categories -
Group 1:
People that KNOW what the hell they are doing (generally the old school muscle car guys - Pontiac and Mopar guys in particular seem to know wtf they are doing). May not know everything, but I find they tend to be really good about being knowledgable, and willing to discuss just about anything under the sun related to cars. Otherwise referred to by me as 'Gear Heads'
Group 2:
The NFI Group - Generally the majority of 3rd generation Fbody owners
Group 3:
The More Money Than Brains Group - Corvette owners 90% of the time here. The guys spouting LSx > *, irregardless of actual reality. This group is not JUST domestics though - all walks of car-dom in this group
Import groups tend to fall into 3 categories, imho:
Group 1: I'd refer to these guys as 'tuners' - basically, young gear heads. The guys that take their Integra (or Supra
Group 2: Ricers. Yeah, you know who you are. :3d_frown:
I always thought of imports as those two groups - but now that I've gotten more and more into the imports myself, I've found a 3rd group -
Group 3:
The nut swingers. Armchair forum warriors. Doesn't matter that their POS is dead, with bad breaks and rod knock - THEY have the superior ride, because 'so and so' has one. Same with parts. I've never seen this in the domestic side of things (actually, in my experience, diversity is WELCOMED in the domestic circles) but in the import crowd, you find these nut swingers all over the place. Dare to be different!! Run that 7M in the MKIV!
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In closing, if you ask me, 90% of the quality of the car, is sitting behind the wheel - be it good or bad quality.
You sir are an ignorant.:icon_evil I used to own 3.5 supras(1/2 car was a parts car) and they were awesome........except two things.......BHG and parts costs. Id love to kept my 86.5 and 1jz it....but lots o money to do it. Now i own a 84 trans am that only runs 13.6's at the moment, it has a 350 sbc, th350, and a open differential. If i were to dump 2k into the car i could be running high 12's...not bad for a 1500 dollar car.....:evil2: Dont get me wrong.....mk3's look badass......but if only the parts didnt cost so fuggin much and the amt to go fast.
mkIIIman089 - I could give my buddy the keys to Ryan Woon's supra, and I'd smoke him in my '88 Accord in the 1/4 mile.
He's THAT bad of a driver
Toyota h8r - I can't help but laugh man - You are aware my first car was a '77 T/A, and I've owned 3 thirdgen Fbodies? Trust me on this, 85% of the 82-92 Camaro/Firebirds are clapped out. Which sucks, because a clean thirdgen is actually a damn classy looking car
Not to mention, an LS1 equipped Thirdgen without all the accessories, is a MEAN fucking machine - both on the track, and at the drag strip!
He's THAT bad of a driver
Toyota h8r - I can't help but laugh man - You are aware my first car was a '77 T/A, and I've owned 3 thirdgen Fbodies? Trust me on this, 85% of the 82-92 Camaro/Firebirds are clapped out. Which sucks, because a clean thirdgen is actually a damn classy looking car
Not to mention, an LS1 equipped Thirdgen without all the accessories, is a MEAN fucking machine - both on the track, and at the drag strip!
Toyota h8r said:
I don't see how you complaining about the cost of an import vs. domestic has anything to do with Doward's statement.
You have a TA that was cheap to buy, probably not expensive to keep running, but won't last very long beating on it.
How is that much different than a MKIII Supra?
How does the money someone spent on a car justify if you just got smoked by them or not?
Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go?
Doward said:Trust me on this, 85% of the 82-92 Camaro/Firebirds are clapped out. Which sucks, because a clean thirdgen is actually a damn classy looking car
Not to mention, an LS1 equipped Thirdgen without all the accessories, is a MEAN fucking machine - both on the track, and at the drag strip!
Couldn't agree more. I had a 3rd gen Camaro and my two friend's have had 6 Iroc's between the two of them. I love the look of a clean one.
One of the people I worked with at my old job has a 2001 camaro. All he did was call my supra a pile of crap, he wouldn't race me, plus he barely got paid more than me so he probably couldn't afford anything better than the V6!
I had just pulled the motor out in those pics. Like i said cheap to go fast, and if you TAKE GOOD CARE OF THEM, you wont have an issue. Third gens get a bad rap to the mullet and people who cant see that a 2.5L 6 cyl motor pushing 300 hp is respectable. If i see a decent mk3 i give them a thumbs up an usually i get one back.(there are asshat mk3 owners round here tho)
And about the supras.....i the amt of money i had to spend to get my mk3's fast was more than i liked. The parts i bought wern't ebay junk....i bought dealer parts most of the time. Id buy another mk3 if it had a sbc or a jz series motor.....i hate 7m's.
kwnate said:
Kwnate i have this to ask....how much money do you have spent to obtain 800+hp outta a 7m? Prolly uber amt's of money.....drop that much into a ls1 ws6 or ss and go a lot faster.:evil2:......or your trailblazer ss:naughty:
But everyone's already done that to an LS1... More fun in a 7M.:naughty:
It's not always about who can be the cheapest.
It's not always about who can be the cheapest.
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