Crazy ass idea: 7M-GTE 240SX
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=j31Yj1pZnqQ
ls1 240sx?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9YIZ6PGUIBQ
MK2 1uz
did somebody say torque?
ls1 240sx?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9YIZ6PGUIBQ
MK2 1uz
did somebody say torque?
thechori said:
That isn't the point we are getting to. If you had a 240sx with no other motors or trans, yes it would be cheaper to throw an SR in there and get 250rwhp. Though the SR block cannot handle the power of the 7m/2jz/1jz without modifying it a lot, same with the RB's. If someone like me, or JT had a 7m laying around with a R154, buying a 240 shell and fabbing the mounts would be cheaper to do it that way, we would also have a motor that weighs about 200lbs more, make close to 300rwhp/300ft lbs of torque, and a full chassis weight of close to 2600 lbs, considerable lower than the mk3 could ever get.
JT, are you sure about the LS1 weighing the same amount as the SR? I think you might be wrong about that one, I just read a article about that discussion.
Edit:: The complete SR with crossmember weighs 490lbs which is less than the KA, and the KA weighs 330 lbs with no trans, while a 02 Corvette engine weighs in at 456lbs, LT1 with trans weighs 620. 7mgte weighs 515, and the 2jzgte weighs 594.
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No I'm not sure about the LS-1 and the SR20 weight. I read somewhere that
the LS-1 weighed 496 with the T56 transmission, but I never double checked
the accuracy of the other poster. I don't really care tho. It weighs less than
the iron block KA24 that's in there, and that's all I really care about.
Jeff
the LS-1 weighed 496 with the T56 transmission, but I never double checked
the accuracy of the other poster. I don't really care tho. It weighs less than
the iron block KA24 that's in there, and that's all I really care about.
Jeff
Come on man it's a great car and a good motor but keep it in the family.we got good cars and good motors and so dose nissan
JT, that's about right.
All aluminum block and heads = ridiculously light weight. ~350 lbs for the motor, and another ~120lbs for the tranny.
All aluminum block and heads = ridiculously light weight. ~350 lbs for the motor, and another ~120lbs for the tranny.
My old 4v 3.4L Toyota V8 weighed 110 Kgs/ 242 lbs 
I used to freak the machine shop out by walking in with the block in my arms (was always tempted to paint it Chev Orange and run in doing the Hulk berserk thing screaming )
I used to freak the machine shop out by walking in with the block in my arms (was always tempted to paint it Chev Orange and run in doing the Hulk berserk thing screaming
)Well, I posted the specs and weights of each. The KA weighs 330 lbs with no trans, and the LS1 weighs 456lbs with no trans. Btw, the SR is lighter than the KA.. So the LS1 does weigh more than both of them. But you have to kind of expect that, 4 more cylinders..
Any ways, I talked with the guys over at tech2motorsports who are selling the kit to drop a 1jz/2jz into a S13/S14. Their kit includes cross member, motor mounts, tranny mount, and drive shaft for the R154 (for $1500). and found out the 7mgte will drop straight in using the 89+ mounts with their motor mounts. Which is good news for people looking for a cheaper alternative than going 2jz or already have a 7mgte.
Any ways, I talked with the guys over at tech2motorsports who are selling the kit to drop a 1jz/2jz into a S13/S14. Their kit includes cross member, motor mounts, tranny mount, and drive shaft for the R154 (for $1500). and found out the 7mgte will drop straight in using the 89+ mounts with their motor mounts. Which is good news for people looking for a cheaper alternative than going 2jz or already have a 7mgte.
I was confused by a result i saw on SF. turns out his timing was waaaaay advanced. Not normal. Sorry for the miss info.
honestly, ive driven quite a few 240's of my friends. all of them handle quite well. one of them has the stock KA, another has an SR, and the third has an rb20. Honestly, the KA and the SR were like day and night when it came to drifting, but most of it was from the power. both cars had megan coilovers, and were controllable, but the SR was just way easier to control; i really had to fight the KA to maintain a drift. the RB had power like the SR, but was hard to stop spinning out, not sure if that was caused by the lowering springs and stock shocks or the motor (swapped without the kit to lower and bring the motor rearward).
all aside, i boo the rb20. i straight up walked a b-line on it with my car, and both of us were running 12psi of boost. the 240 weighs a LOT less than my supra (stock weight)
i think that with a good suspension, a 7m 240 would be excellent. plenty of torque to "have fun," yet not be an uncontrollable donut-machine. and still fast.
now all i have to do is talk my friend into swapping in my extra 7m into his 240 instead of a vq35. he is going to junk the rb20...
all aside, i boo the rb20. i straight up walked a b-line on it with my car, and both of us were running 12psi of boost. the 240 weighs a LOT less than my supra (stock weight)
i think that with a good suspension, a 7m 240 would be excellent. plenty of torque to "have fun," yet not be an uncontrollable donut-machine. and still fast.
now all i have to do is talk my friend into swapping in my extra 7m into his 240 instead of a vq35. he is going to junk the rb20...
^^ Thats an SC300 not an S14. No way a 240sx has that much extra room in the motor compartment lol..
1jzgte SC300
2jzgte 240sx
1jzgte SC300
2jzgte 240sx
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Hello old thread, im glad to come across this. Does anyone have pics of a 7m in a s13? or link to a thread were this has been done
I have both a 1jz and a 7m and if i had a 1jz swapped 240, would it be hard putting the 7m in?
I have both a 1jz and a 7m and if i had a 1jz swapped 240, would it be hard putting the 7m in?
There is nothing crazy about a powerful engine installed in a lightweight chasis. I think it is a good idea. The 7M CelicaSupra comes to mind. As does an old Z car, which I have seen on this site.