Computer Guys!
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Clueless;1135417 said:
More memory trumps dual channel if you are running less than you need. On XP, dual channel 2 GB > single channel 3 GB.
If we were talking 256MB vs 512MB, then yes, the more ram would help.
There is a point of diminishing returns on RAM upgrades. With XP, that points is 1.0GB. After 1.0GB, you get less and less performance, so you want to maximize available bandwidth, and reduce latency as much as possible.
Like I said, WoW doesn't care about the speed of the RAM, only that you have enough of it in a raid setting or your HDD is constantly thrashing...
Video card RAM makes a difference too. It really depends on the application of the computer...
Video card RAM makes a difference too. It really depends on the application of the computer...
Doward;1135403 said:Also, whowouldfigga - wtf? Don't ride the latest technology. More correctly, there are FOUR places you should not cheap out - Monitor, Motherboard, Case, and Speakers. I've been using the same speakers, monitor, case, and motherboard through 3 upgrades, and after 2.5 years, I'm finally upgrading my motherboard (to an Asus P5Q3 Pro, for anyone wondering)
Never buy the latest. See what's out right now? Wait 6 months, then buy it. Or in other words, buy what was the latest, 6 months ago. Enjoy 90% of the power of the 'latest and greatest' at 50% of the price
I agree on the monitor issue. The majority of your hard earned cash should go to a monitor. As far as the box (cpu / motherboard / case). I don't ride the latest technology. I built two P4 northwood 3.4ghz systems, with antec cases, asus and intel mboards, 2gb crucial dc ram, 6800gt nvidia 256mg graphic cards and they have never hiccuped. That was over 3 years ago and they cost me some good amount of change $$$. It was fun and rewarding but I'm not going down that road again. I use my computer for documents, email, and surfing the net. No high end horsepower computing needed here.
It comes down to the individual users needs. If your building your own custom high performance systems you never, never cut corners when it comes to the case, mboard, memory, power supply, vid card.
"ePenis status" That's funny gotta remember that one.
What constitutes 'cutting corners'?
I'm running an e2160 @ 3.6Ghz (100% overclock) with a Radeon HD3870.
I've spent a whopping $800 on my box, COMPLETE. I'm about to throw down another $120 on the P5Q3 motherboard, which will support me well into the 45nm quad core days. DDR3 is still too new to warrant it - I'll ride DDR2 out for a while longer. I rode DDR out until just about a year ago.
I'm running an e2160 @ 3.6Ghz (100% overclock) with a Radeon HD3870.
I've spent a whopping $800 on my box, COMPLETE. I'm about to throw down another $120 on the P5Q3 motherboard, which will support me well into the 45nm quad core days. DDR3 is still too new to warrant it - I'll ride DDR2 out for a while longer. I rode DDR out until just about a year ago.
Poodles;1135565 said:
*confused* Ram in a Raid setting?
Hard drives go into RAID arrays, not memory. I think you know that, just misspoke
If WoW doesn't care about the speed of the ram, I dare you to tell me that a KT133A chipset running an AthlonXP 3400+ with 1.5GB of PC133 ram will run as well as the identical setup on an AMD 760 with 1.5GB of DDR266 ram.
There is a massive difference. Does running dual channel make as big of a jump? No. The processor simply can't keep up with the influx of data being shuffled.
A computer system is just that - a SYSTEM. Look for your particular bottlenecks and eliminate them.
Hell, this guy could be running a 600Mhz SocketA Duron for all we know
raid is a WoW term
Means tons of people on screen at once all with different armor (meaning massive amounts of texture data)
Yeah, that's why I want to know more about his system...
Means tons of people on screen at once all with different armor (meaning massive amounts of texture data)
Yeah, that's why I want to know more about his system...
Doward;1135623 said:
Honestly Doward I wont even pretend to give an intelligent answer on what I mean by "cutting corners". I have been out of the custom made, upgrading computers world for quite some time. Ever since my last build three years ago which is a lifetime in the technology field. For example... Is AMD still in buisness?:biglaugh:
whowouldfigga;1135653 said:
yes and they finally got their quad-core going....I still like intel though
Clueless;1135699 said:
Intel has been embarrassing AMD ever since the Core2 came out. I was an AMD fan from the first PC I built [a 386 DX40 roughly 15 years ago] up until about the time the Core2 architecture reared it's head. I still respect AMD, and they may come back [ for example, after a long run as the underdog, Ati's best card buries nVidia's at the moment, but that could flip-flop any day now] but for me it's Intel for now.
Sure, AMD/ATI is winning in the GPU game right now, but what sucks about AMD lagging in the mainboard chip department is it stagnates the CPU manufacturers; when Intel has competition, chips get faster and the prices come down: the consumer wins. At the moment, prices are pretty decent, but they are churning new chips out a little slower because they don't have to compete for who is better at the moment.
drunk_medic;1135758 said:
Yea, my e6600 is doing the job jut fine...I'm on a cheap board right now so I'm limited to 2gb of memory which sucks. I'm considering a SSD right now...
Doward;1135623 said:
maybe find a motherboard that can support both. I built my desktop in '04. This was just when LGA775 came out and PCI-X. When i got the board it supported DDR and DDR2. The board (Asus P5gdc-v Deluxe) offered a lot of future compatibilities which is why i got it. They had'nt even had a PCI-x graphics card out yet...well they did, one Nvidia 6200, i had to wait about 4 months to get the 6600GT, which i still actually use.