Tis true. Fires are nearly without exception the result of bad maintenance or sloppy work done by people who haven't a clue how to do things right. This is even more the case when it comes to electrical fires.
Charcoal Canister?
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just get a smaller canister and stick it under the fender. ive heard of people using a jza70 or even a honda canister.
Nor has mine. One reason is I service aircraft and apply the same methods, materials, and techniques on the car. Makes it pretty much bullet-proof. That said I carry Halon 1301 in all my vehicles. Call it insurance 
Mine cought fire in McDonalds drive threw.. thank god i cut my hood up.. i could see it LOL... and had 2 gal water in back.. but will have a little red bottle in it this time...
ummm ok guys im kinda in the dark, i dont really understand whats going on here cus i bought my car without one, and no one has ever shown me anyhing to do with said cannister, would someone please enlighten the ignorant me please?
what are its purposes and where does it go, and what hoses are we taking about, because im gettin kinda worried....
what are its purposes and where does it go, and what hoses are we taking about, because im gettin kinda worried....
giterboosted;1003624 said:
thought there was something on it in the tsrm but guess not. correct me if im wrong, but my understanding is that it basicly filters gas vapors from the gas tank. people remove them for whatever reason, make room for whatever, "clean engine bay crusades", or whatever. when removed those vapors just vent into the atmosphere
dont know about you guys but i wouldnt like the fact my gas is leaving a trail of gas vapors.
listen
I worked with fuel among other things for a living.
It is REALLY simple.
Get a match. Light it up. Throw it on the ground. Get a gallon of gasoline or 1/4 of a gallon. Throw gasoline onto match. It will not ignite.
Now do it the other way around. Ie leave 1/4 gallon of gasoline in a pail. Light match and throw match into pail. Poof insta-fire.
The gasoline itself is not very combustible. The VAPORS of the gasoline on the other hand are very very combustible. So much so that an ESD WILL ignite the vapors.
As I stated before, you guys want to kill yourself or monkey see monkey do, by all means go for it! But saying that it is ok is a bunch of horse shit. IT IS NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES OK!
I worked with fuel among other things for a living.
It is REALLY simple.
Get a match. Light it up. Throw it on the ground. Get a gallon of gasoline or 1/4 of a gallon. Throw gasoline onto match. It will not ignite.
Now do it the other way around. Ie leave 1/4 gallon of gasoline in a pail. Light match and throw match into pail. Poof insta-fire.
The gasoline itself is not very combustible. The VAPORS of the gasoline on the other hand are very very combustible. So much so that an ESD WILL ignite the vapors.
As I stated before, you guys want to kill yourself or monkey see monkey do, by all means go for it! But saying that it is ok is a bunch of horse shit. IT IS NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES OK!
jetjock;1003599 said:Nor has mine. One reason is I service aircraft and apply the same methods, materials, and techniques on the car. Makes it pretty much bullet-proof. That said I carry Halon 1301 in all my vehicles. Call it insurance
Well check out the standalone section then......the autosport thread I created
The crimpers should look familiar to you 
HommerSimpson;1003603 said:
Yours was caused by the alternator heating up the poz cable. Nothing to do with fuel or evap canister.
j3pz;1003687 said:
The function of the Fuel Evaporative Emission System is covered in the TSRM. As with all EVAP systems it's job it to capture HC vapor for later combustion. It does this by using charcoal, which has an enormous surface area relative to it's size. If it matters any the charcoal is derived from coconuts.
Since defeating the system results in the brown slop seen in the air over cities, is directly irritating to the lungs and other tissues, can cause cancer, contribute to birth defects and cause other illnesses, yet nets zero performance advantage to the engine in question and is usually done only for appearance, it makes those (and their offspring) who remove it self-centered assholes who should be forced to breathe the shit until they die...
Explains a LOT of the "performance mod" decisions I see made here.... :nono:jetjock;1003931 said:
jdub;1003629 said:Yet another example of a logical fallacy
DegreE;1003718 said:
jetjock;1003931 said:
You nailed it JJ :bigthumb:
figgie;1003692 said:
If the gas is cold enough, it might not light in the pail either. As he said, vapors burn, not liquids.
Just throw your parts in a pile and label it, things "Toyota engineers are dumber than me".
I hear you don't need your 7M in the car to run either, THAT should really clean up your engine bay
This is one of those "mods" that just make zero sense to me. The only justification that I can see for it is appearance, in which case, there are plenty of places that the cannister can be hidden. I did not and will not remove mine, though I do plan to move it.
1. Its purpose is to store and burn evaporated fuel. Hey, any fuel that I burn instead of allowing to evaporate is a good thing in my books.
2. Raw gas smell = fail. The smell of raw gas around an engine is (to me) a sign of something wrong, or at least poorly maintained.
All that being said, my BVSV is busted, and I have the lines run direct, as if the BVSV is always open, even at low coolant temperatures, however I feel that this only introduces a small amount of error into the intended purpose of the system, since my coolant temp isn't low for very long.
1. Its purpose is to store and burn evaporated fuel. Hey, any fuel that I burn instead of allowing to evaporate is a good thing in my books.
2. Raw gas smell = fail. The smell of raw gas around an engine is (to me) a sign of something wrong, or at least poorly maintained.
All that being said, my BVSV is busted, and I have the lines run direct, as if the BVSV is always open, even at low coolant temperatures, however I feel that this only introduces a small amount of error into the intended purpose of the system, since my coolant temp isn't low for very long.