Car impounded and $1,000+ in fines.

[lagged]

ok wait wait


I held my tounge on this one but, as always. can't any more.

how do you get the car sideway on a turn? I have NEVER gotten my supra sideways but then again I know how to drive.

There should be zero reason for you to get sideways unless;

1.. You are fucking around in which case you got what you deserved.
2. Don't know how to drive, in which case get a lower powered car and LEARN how to drive, and you got what you deserved
3. You did it on purpose in which case, you got what you deserved.

Sorry man, getting sideway is either of these 3. I have owned my supra since 94 and I have NEVER gotten sideway not even once, not even in the rain. So I will vote #2 with you.

actually id be inclined to say that he DID NOT get what he deserved. if he got a ticket for street racing, yet he was not actually racing he did not get what he deserved.

what he was doing does have a definition and that is wreckless driving. if he had gotten a ticket for wreckless driving, then he would have gotten what he deserved.

law enforcement MUST be done correctly. the more we let police abuse the system the more rights we throw away.

my advice, go to court and plead not guilty. tell the judge exactly what you were doing and that you were not racing anyone.

tell the judge you would gladly plead guilty to the proper charge.

 

[swaq]

ok wait wait


I held my tounge on this one but, as always. can't any more.

how do you get the car sideway on a turn? I have NEVER gotten my supra sideways but then again I know how to drive.

There should be zero reason for you to get sideways unless;

1.. You are fucking around in which case you got what you deserved.
2. Don't know how to drive, in which case get a lower powered car and LEARN how to drive, and you got what you deserved
3. You did it on purpose in which case, you got what you deserved.

Sorry man, getting sideway is either of these 3. I have owned my supra since 94 and I have NEVER gotten sideway not even once, not even in the rain. So I will vote #2 with you.

I'm pretty sure it was #3 in this case. Getting a Supra sideways around a corner is a simple matter of applying extra throttle (it's a RWD car, duh), I've even done it in my non-turbo. In my opinion if you haven't gotten your Supra sideways you haven't lived.

 

[Facime]

^^^ I agree with him

(Bah...one post up)

 

[Alex91Mk3]

well if u need extra money, ill take those blue gauges off ur hands =)
mines blue u see!!
<<<<<<<<< it would match =)

 

[figgie]

I'm pretty sure it was #3 in this case. Getting a Supra sideways around a corner is a simple matter of applying extra throttle (it's a RWD car, duh), I've even done it in my non-turbo. In my opinion if you haven't gotten your Supra sideways you haven't lived.

actually if you have gotten your supra sideways you best get off the road as you suck in driving as that means you are not aware of the condition in which you are applying the throttle therefore you are not aware if you will or will not lose control and therefore meaning you do not know what the hell you are doing with a mildly powered car. God forbid you have 500 rwhp and trying the same shit.

actually id be inclined to say that he DID NOT get what he deserved. if he got a ticket for street racing, yet he was not actually racing he did not get what he deserved.

what he was doing does have a definition and that is wreckless driving. if he had gotten a ticket for wreckless driving, then he would have gotten what he deserved.

law enforcement MUST be done correctly. the more we let police abuse the system the more rights we throw away.

my advice, go to court and plead not guilty. tell the judge exactly what you were doing and that you were not racing anyone.

tell the judge you would gladly plead guilty to the proper charge

inclined or not. stupidity or in this case, ignorance is no excuse for making a car go sideways. Street racing, perhaps under his city or state statue it DOES qualify as such

 

[lagged]

actually if you have gotten your supra sideways you best get off the road as you suck in driving.



inclined or not. stupidity or in this case, ignorance is no excuse for making a car go sideways. Street racing, perhaps under his city or state statue it DOES qualify as such

yes but you DO see my point right? its important that the laws are enforced correctly.

its better that he gets off with no fines because the police officer made a mistake, than him paying the fine for a crime he didnt really commit.

 

[JustAnotherVictim]

yes but you DO see my point right? its important that the laws are enforced correctly.

its better that he gets off with no fines because the police officer made a mistake, than him paying the fine for a crime he didnt really commit.

:word8kn:

 

[swaq]

actually if you have gotten your supra sideways you best get off the road as you suck in driving.

I would say if you got your Supra sideways on accident you suck at driving. Doing it under control shows you know the limits of your car.

When I was driving in my Subaru to go snowboarding I was on packed snow/ice and my wheels got caught up in the grooves from other cars and it yanked my car sideways at about 45 degrees. Because I had experience before with a car getting sideways I didn't panic at all but was able to regain control of the vehicle despite being on ice and snow.

If you don't push your vehicle to the edge every now and then under controlled circumstances you won't be ready for when a real emergency happens. Oh, and it's just plain fun. I wouldn't advocate trying to get your car sideways at higher speeds though. All the times I've gone sideways on purpose have been at 30 mph or slower.

[edit] You changed your post. I completely agree with you on if you don't know you're going to get the car sideways. Today I overheard another employee here talk about how he just bought a brand new Dodge Viper and then lost control in a similar manner (completely on accident, he wasn't trying to get it sideways) and wrecked it before the odometer read 100 miles. And now he wants to go buy another one in a year. Idiot. [/edit]

 

[Demianu27]

So if I master the limits of my car, like figgie, I will never ever get in an accident due to weather or traction issues? ...:squint:

I totaslly believe figgie; losing traction is always a user error. The driver should:

1. Melt any black ice on the road that they are going to drive on before they drive.
2. Sweep up any loose pavement on the whole road that they are going to drive on before they drive.
3. Dry the roads with towels and blow-dryers before they drive.
4. Test the stickiness of each different road that the driver will be driving on.

 

[lagged]

So if I master the limits of my car, like figgie, I will never ever get in an accident due to weather or traction issues? ...:squint:

I totaslly believe figgie; losing traction is always a user error. The driver should:

1. Melt any black ice on the road that they are going to drive on before they drive.
2. Sweep up any loose pavement on the whole road that they are going to drive on before they drive.
3. Dry the roads with towels and blow-dryers before they drive.
4. Test the stickiness of each different road that the driver will be driving on.

actually youre wrong. part of being a good driver is anticipating the unexpected. i know when the conditions can support the existance of black ice, so while going around corners i go SLOW. especially in the supra which is easier than my other car to loose control in conditions like that.

if the roads are wet, i dont push it. hydroplaning is a scary fucking thign. i do my best to go slow and not make sudden adjustments on a wet highway.

i spun out once in my supra when i first got it. i was 17 and was going around a down hill left turn. it was wet out and gave it just a little too much gas and i spun around 180 degrees. luckily there were NO cars behind me and i didnt hit the curb. lesson learned.

being a good driver is also about experience. you have to pay attention to what youre doing, and to what the other ass holes around you are doing.

 

[JustAnotherVictim]

Hydro-planening is fun, you just have to know how to control the car. I don't do it very often even so.

 

[swaq]

actually youre wrong. part of being a good driver is anticipating the unexpected. i know when the conditions can support the existance of black ice, so while going around corners i go SLOW. especially in the supra which is easier than my other car to loose control in conditions like that.

if the roads are wet, i dont push it. hydroplaning is a scary fucking thign. i do my best to go slow and not make sudden adjustments on a wet highway.

i spun out once in my supra when i first got it. i was 17 and was going around a down hill left turn. it was wet out and gave it just a little too much gas and i spun around 180 degrees. luckily there were NO cars behind me and i didnt hit the curb. lesson learned.

being a good driver is also about experience. you have to pay attention to what youre doing, and to what the other ass holes around you are doing.

I agree. I did almost the same thing around a 90 degree turn back when I was in high school. I think it was wet and I was trying to accelerate hard through it or something (just being my dumb 18-year-old self). I ended up at 180 degrees and forgot to put in the clutch so I killed it. Fortunately I didn't hit the curb, but there was a truck behind me, who patiently waited for me to restart my car and get out of his way.

 

[Demianu27]

So I guess it's always a user error...

 

[figgie]

yes but you DO see my point right? its important that the laws are enforced correctly.

its better that he gets off with no fines because the police officer made a mistake, than him paying the fine for a crime he didnt really commit.

but as I stated without knowing the statue it is guessing and nothing else. If the statues for his city/county/state does in fact state that skidding is considered street racing... then he is fucked no matter what.

remember most states when they give a ticket for speeding say

traffic violation or moving violation and then under statue put the statue number. This might be the same thing. Again it is guessing though.

 

[lagged]

Hydro-planening is fun, you just have to know how to control the car. I don't do it very often even so.

heh, not for me and not on the highway at 50+ with other idiots speeding by.

i just imagine wrecking my car. thats enough for me to keep it slow.

 

[JustAnotherVictim]

heh, not for me and not on the highway at 50+ with other idiots speeding by.

i just imagine wrecking my car. thats enough for me to keep it slow.

Oh, well not on the highway I thought you meant regular streets.
On the highway would suck ass.

 

[SupraDerk]

I totaslly believe figgie; losing traction is always a user error. The driver should:

So pro drifters are making errors...and getting paid for it?


Edit: Just reread your post...I'm guessing it was sarcastic?

 

[figgie]

So if I master the limits of my car, like figgie, I will never ever get in an accident due to weather or traction issues? ...:squint:

I totaslly believe figgie; losing traction is always a user error. The driver should:

1. Melt any black ice on the road that they are going to drive on before they drive.
2. Sweep up any loose pavement on the whole road that they are going to drive on before they drive.
3. Dry the roads with towels and blow-dryers before they drive.
4. Test the stickiness of each different road that the driver will be driving on.

ok this deserves the following comment

DO NOT BE A FUCKING IDIOT.

if you are going fast enough to lose control on black ice. USER ERROR as that means temps are below freezing already your you ignorant ass chose to speed with this fact infront of you.
If you are on loose pavement and don't know about it. AGAIN USER ERROR as your ignorant ass chose to speed on lose pavement like you are a WRC driver.

it goes down to knowing when you can and can't and in ALL those conditions you mentioned if you are ignorant to such signs (temps below water freezing and you still decide to speed or lose gravel). If there is even a single fucking doubt then guess what. USER ERROR if you lose control.

<-- 15 years with ZERO accidents.

Basically as Lagged retorted to your lame ass attempt at disproving me is about knowing your surrounding. Don't know your surrounding? Then why the hell are you speeding/drifintg etc to begin with!!

any other straw grabs cowboy?

 

[JustAnotherVictim]

I gotta say it's not that hard to loose control on black ice even if you're going slow. I don't how that is user error.

 

[figgie]

I gotta say it's not that hard to loose control on black ice even if you're going slow. I don't how that is user error.

Nonesense.

I driven numerous times on patches of black ice without issues and even on pure ice. never once lost control. Why?

1. Going slow enough. not driving like it was 80 degree outside (65-70 mph) or thinking that AWD/4wd/ABS will save your happy ass.
2. Have my winter tires on the car.
3. KNowing that is freezing or below freezing outside.

same with most people up here in Minnesota.

I always see people in the ditct up here during the first snow fall. Always because of the SAME reason. Speeding and then expecting to stop like it was 80 degrees outside. USER ERROR.